BLOGHER CONFERENCE '05 CHATROOM TRANSCRIPTS SECTION 4 (raw logs) redsaid says to (2005-7-30 14:29:24): What Norb? *** (2005-7-30 14:29:29):Welcome to BlogHer Conference Chat , alizasherman ! Jo Spanglemonkey says to (2005-7-30 14:29:31): Does satan eat doughnuts? norbizness says to (2005-7-30 14:29:34): Sorry, just an inside joke larkspur says to (2005-7-30 14:29:34): He has to buy us all KKs. redsaid says to (2005-7-30 14:29:35): Hi Aliza! Karen says to (2005-7-30 14:29:46): Actually I heard it from Mortimer Adler 20 years ahgo, but you get my drift. Shelley says to (2005-7-30 14:29:48): no way norby -- pay up larkspur says to (2005-7-30 14:29:49): Satan eats prairie dogs Rachel says to (2005-7-30 14:29:50): Norbizness - where do we collect the donuts (that's Krispy Kremes, yes?) alizasherman says to (2005-7-30 14:29:57): hi redsaid says to (2005-7-30 14:29:59): Hahahaha, Lark! *** (2005-7-30 14:30:15):bucky4eyes quit the room Michele says to (2005-7-30 14:30:22): I use to say Oriental to describe certain Asian art styles and was told not to do that...a flame of sorts. But art from India is different from the Orient. So I was lost. Still am trying to figure it out. *** (2005-7-30 14:30:30):7even lost connection, left the room norbizness says to (2005-7-30 14:30:33): My favorite response to an unwarranted Hitler argument is "Hitler built interstate highways, and so did Eisenhower. Just Eisenhower fough Hitler.... riddle me that, Batman!" larkspur says to (2005-7-30 14:30:50): It all gets so messy. Like when someone characterizes a disagreeing comment as a flame. You just wanna go out and rinse your brain off. redsaid says to (2005-7-30 14:30:51): Geez! norbizness says to (2005-7-30 14:30:58): Or, "wasn't Hitler really fighting himself?" I think it's a koan or something. Shelley says to (2005-7-30 14:31:10): larkspur, true. It is so open to how we deal with things personally norbizness says to (2005-7-30 14:31:17): Lark: I usually tell those people to disable comments, because they're not long for this world. larkspur says to (2005-7-30 14:31:44): So YOU'RE the one who told Michelle Malkin to disable her comments, norby redsaid says to (2005-7-30 14:31:55): Oh, good for you, Norb! laura says (2005-7-30 14:31:56): NEW SESSION TOPICS: Room 1: How to Get Naked Room 2: Women who want to fund, build & sell things Room 3: Legal Tips: What You Can Get Away With Room 4: Teens & Blogging Room 5: Women Blog Developers ...if any of these strikes your fancy, go to it! Shelley says to (2005-7-30 14:32:0): I had a briefly fun time in Michelle's comments Shelley says to (2005-7-30 14:32:13): WOMEN BLOG DEVELOPERS! YEAH! larkspur says to (2005-7-30 14:32:14): She used to have 'em? redsaid says to (2005-7-30 14:32:16): Why only briefly, Shelley? Shelley says to (2005-7-30 14:32:23): She shut us down norbizness says to (2005-7-30 14:32:26): "I call for the internment of all Arabs, and people are upset at me in the comments? What a cruel world!" Shelley says to (2005-7-30 14:32:34): I had too much fun in Michelle's comments redsaid says to (2005-7-30 14:32:35): Aaah, why am I not surprised. Flippy says to (2005-7-30 14:32:51): Uh oh, I'm interested in everything but teen bloggers. It's good I'm not there. How would I decide? *** (2005-7-30 14:33:2):Michele quit the room *** (2005-7-30 14:33:8):Welcome to BlogHer Conference Chat , guest2500 ! larkspur says to (2005-7-30 14:33:11): I would assign you to Teen Bloggers, Flippy. Easy. redsaid says to (2005-7-30 14:33:14): Hey guest! mediagirl says to (2005-7-30 14:33:17): How to Get Naked! Not one for me. Flippy says to (2005-7-30 14:33:17): Meanie. dar says to larkspur (2005-7-30 14:33:22): Ok, how do we "go" to these conferences? Check with the live bloggers? *** (2005-7-30 14:33:23):Welcome to BlogHer Conference Chat , Michele ! *** (2005-7-30 14:33:25):Michele lost connection, left the room norbizness says to (2005-7-30 14:33:31): Are there actual detailed instructions for that process, Media? larkspur says to (2005-7-30 14:33:34): Ah, it builds character, Flippy! norbizness says to (2005-7-30 14:33:37): 1. Remove clothing. norbizness says to (2005-7-30 14:33:42): 2. Repeat if necessary. Karen says to (2005-7-30 14:33:43): The naked one is about revealing personal things. norbizness says to (2005-7-30 14:33:53): That'll teach me to be literal redsaid says to (2005-7-30 14:33:57): Like your bathroom habits. Flippy says to (2005-7-30 14:34:0): I have enough character. I run a message board with thousands of teenagers. mediagirl says to (2005-7-30 14:34:3): 3. watch your site traffic go way up ... or way down! alizasherman says to mediagirl (2005-7-30 14:34:9): hey mediagirl - I'm mediagirl, too. that is, one of my blogs is. what is your blog? Shelley says to (2005-7-30 14:34:16): Are the people in the rooms monitoring this chat? Will they field questions for us? larkspur says to (2005-7-30 14:34:18): dar, I couldn't figure out how to "go" to a bloggy thing, so I came here. norbizness says to (2005-7-30 14:34:24): 4. (in my case) Watch the FCC use you as an example in regulating all blog content. mediagirl says to alizasherman (2005-7-30 14:34:35): Which one are you? DC? larkspur says to (2005-7-30 14:34:37): Okay, flippy, you are excused. alizasherman says to mediagirl (2005-7-30 14:34:44): and are there women blog developers here? i'm writing an intro book to blogging and would love to quote them in it. redsaid says to (2005-7-30 14:34:47): Oh, so you're famous, Norb? Or should I say, infamous? dar says to (2005-7-30 14:34:48): I keep checking the live blogs and they keep saying that the session hasn't started yet. alizasherman says to mediagirl (2005-7-30 14:34:56): mg - was nyc but now far flung places north *** (2005-7-30 14:34:57):Char quit the room norbizness says to (2005-7-30 14:34:57): Not even remotely Shelley says to (2005-7-30 14:35:2): Yup, I have my own Wordform laura says (2005-7-30 14:35:18): The women blog developers are at the conference talking right now *** (2005-7-30 14:35:20):GraceD lost connection, left the room larkspur says to (2005-7-30 14:35:21): Oh shut UP, Norbi! You are famous. Flippy says to (2005-7-30 14:35:21): Thank you, larkspur. Although I could handle teen blogging if they didn't use text messaging abbreviations. Gah, hate those. *** (2005-7-30 14:35:25):Technorati tags on Blogher: http://technorati.com/tag/blogher laura says (2005-7-30 14:35:29): I'm here, but I'm more of a designer than a developer Shelley says to (2005-7-30 14:35:36): Who is live blogging the session? mediagirl says to alizasherman (2005-7-30 14:35:42): Which one are you? Karen says to (2005-7-30 14:35:46): There is another forum on legal rights and the presenters have MP3's of earlier conferences mediagirl says to alizasherman (2005-7-30 14:35:48): I am www.mediagirl.org *** (2005-7-30 14:35:52):Welcome to BlogHer Conference Chat , ribbit ! norbizness says to (2005-7-30 14:35:53): Lark: I forgot about those governments I brought down with my poorly conceived picture captions and movie talk redsaid says to (2005-7-30 14:35:59): Hi Ribbit! *** (2005-7-30 14:36:1):Becca quit the room alizasherman says to mediagirl (2005-7-30 14:36:26): mediagirlblog.com laura says (2005-7-30 14:36:31): All (or most) live bloggers are listed here: http://www.blogher.org/2005/07/track_blogher_l.html *** (2005-7-30 14:36:39):Flippy lost connection, left the room larkspur says to (2005-7-30 14:36:40): "Nor-RegimeChange-Bizness" redsaid says to (2005-7-30 14:36:42): If you've succeeded in government coups, can't you please go to Zimbabwe? I have family there. *** (2005-7-30 14:37:11):Shelley lost connection, left the room *** (2005-7-30 14:37:29):Welcome to BlogHer Conference Chat , Shelley ! larkspur says to (2005-7-30 14:37:32): redsaid, do you have a suggestion for a Zimbabwe-based blog, by any chance? I'm curious. dar says to (2005-7-30 14:37:33): I can see my blog tonight: I hung out in the BlogHer chat room.. and pretended I was there. If I order the t-shirt, do you think anyone would know I'm faking it? mediagirl says to alizasherman (2005-7-30 14:37:39): I've not seen yours before mediagirl says to alizasherman (2005-7-30 14:37:53): How will we be able to tell who's who? larkspur says to (2005-7-30 14:37:57): dar, just blog that you're wearing the tshirt. Who will know? redsaid says to (2005-7-30 14:38:7): No, lark. I don't. mediagirl says to alizasherman (2005-7-30 14:38:26): I think we're both dwarfed by DC Media Girl, who has the blessing of the Kos redsaid says to (2005-7-30 14:38:34): I'm in the States (I'm South African) with aunts, uncles and cousins in Zim. mar cela says to (2005-7-30 14:38:37): redsaid, where are you from? larkspur says to (2005-7-30 14:38:51): Red, you made me think of "Baghdad Burning", which is why I asked about Zimbabwe. We don't hear much from Riverbend these days, do we? redsaid says to (2005-7-30 14:39:15): Maybe I should start one from here? I don't feel that I know enough though. norbizness says to (2005-7-30 14:39:23): Another interesting observation from SoCalMom's liveblogging, also from an audience member: "As a mommy blogger, if you write anything about how you are raising your children, you're going to get flame-o-rama. Even if you only have ten readers." alizasherman says to mediagirl (2005-7-30 14:39:25): mine is really more known by my real name. I've been called Mediagirl since the 90s but never got the domain. I got mediaegg.com instead because at the time, I was also known as cybergrrl so had that domain. back in the day. *** (2005-7-30 14:39:25):LisaStone lost connection, left the room redsaid says to (2005-7-30 14:39:36): Freedom of speech isn't exactly allowed in Zim these days. larkspur says to (2005-7-30 14:39:59): I guess a site would have to be outside of Zim redsaid says to (2005-7-30 14:40:5): Yes, Norb! That's the mommy drive-bys I was talking about earlier norbizness says to (2005-7-30 14:40:5): Yeah, I don't think Mugabe has received any awards from the ACLU mediagirl says to alizasherman (2005-7-30 14:40:14): Well I just stole it last year on Blogger, then on the .org domain larkspur says to (2005-7-30 14:40:23): I am not allowed to comment on anyone's parenting as I neglected to reproduce. redsaid says to (2005-7-30 14:40:30): It warms my heart though that you guys at least know what's going on. *** (2005-7-30 14:40:45):sisoma lost connection, left the room dar says to (2005-7-30 14:40:49): lark.. me too. larkspur says to (2005-7-30 14:40:51): I should know more, for sure, red. alizasherman says to mediagirl (2005-7-30 14:40:57): does DC MG have it trademarked, I wonder? maybe we'll get in trouble and get lots of press and traffic! dar says to (2005-7-30 14:41:18): red, my heart aches for the troubles in Zimbabwe... mediagirl says to alizasherman (2005-7-30 14:41:35): i found her site before registering, and at the time she was not posting much. i just took it. there's also a mediagirl web designer somewhere, the .com i think redsaid says to (2005-7-30 14:41:39): Oh, dar... I can't even think about my family without my heart breaking. mediagirl says to alizasherman (2005-7-30 14:42:1): as for trademarks, i would just love to blog about that {evil_smiley} alizasherman says to (2005-7-30 14:42:20): I'm working on a book about blogging for Adams Media so if you have a blog or love a blog, please get in touch. You can google my name to get my email. *** (2005-7-30 14:42:25):Jo Spanglemonkey lost connection, left the room norbizness says to (2005-7-30 14:42:27): Gotta go for now... have a good day and for those at the conference, enjoy! *** (2005-7-30 14:42:31):Welcome to BlogHer Conference Chat , Multimedia ! larkspur says to (2005-7-30 14:42:36): By say hi to the pups for me redsaid says to (2005-7-30 14:42:42): Bye Priarie Dawg! redsaid says to (2005-7-30 14:42:51): ~Send my love to the African Animals! Multimedia says to (2005-7-30 14:42:52): All the websites omit WHERE the blogHer conference is being held alizasherman says to mediagirl (2005-7-30 14:42:53): mediagirl.com is the Web designer. what is the url for the DC mediagirl, then? now we're really confused! redsaid says to (2005-7-30 14:42:58): And for sure, Aliza, sounds fascinating. *** (2005-7-30 14:43:1):norbizness lost connection, left the room Multimedia says to (2005-7-30 14:43:2): could we get a WHERE??? Please? dar says to (2005-7-30 14:43:21): multimedia.. BlogHer is being held in Santa Clara, Ca. Multimedia says to (2005-7-30 14:43:36): Santa Clara Convention Center? *** (2005-7-30 14:43:46):Blogher Blogroll: http://www.bloglines.com/public/BlogHer Multimedia says to (2005-7-30 14:43:47): that is still vague mediagirl says to alizasherman (2005-7-30 14:43:52): I just emailed a hotmail account *** (2005-7-30 14:43:54):Shelley lost connection, left the room alizasherman says to (2005-7-30 14:44:3): I'm supposed to be working on said book right now. But I'm so into procrastination. dar says to (2005-7-30 14:44:11): MM, since it's sold out, does it matter? I don't think the convention center (infact I'm sure not)... redsaid says to (2005-7-30 14:44:18): Ah, procrastination... the writer's disease. redsaid says to (2005-7-30 14:44:33): Wow, it's sold out? That's cool! alizasherman says to mediagirl (2005-7-30 14:44:37): will check my hotmail account... mediagirl says to alizasherman (2005-7-30 14:44:38): dc has another domain, or subdomain altogether. google will find her Multimedia says to (2005-7-30 14:44:54): So what Hotel? laura says (2005-7-30 14:44:56): All info is at www.blogher.org larkspur says to (2005-7-30 14:45:2): Page says it's at "Tech Mart" in Santa Clara dar says to (2005-7-30 14:45:4): red, yeah. I found out about it after there were no tickets available. Rachel says to (2005-7-30 14:45:16): MM: directions/info are here:http://www.blogher.org/2005/04/blogher_confere.html Multimedia says to (2005-7-30 14:45:16): That's in the same building as the Convention Center alizasherman says to mediagirl (2005-7-30 14:45:26): aha - dcmediagirl.com dar says to (2005-7-30 14:45:40): yeah, it's the same building. Multimedia says to (2005-7-30 14:45:50): thanks redsaid says to (2005-7-30 14:46:6): Hey, Dar, what's your URL? dar says to (2005-7-30 14:46:49): red: personal blog is: astitchintime.blogspot.com *** (2005-7-30 14:46:52):Welcome to BlogHer Conference Chat , Jo Spanglemonkey ! dar says to (2005-7-30 14:46:54): what's yours" redsaid says to (2005-7-30 14:46:59): redsaid.net redsaid says to (2005-7-30 14:47:30): Oh, right. Sorry. You've told me earlier. I already have your blog open, actually! *** (2005-7-30 14:47:49):KentBye lost connection, left the room redsaid says to (2005-7-30 14:48:1): Welcome back Jo. mar cela says to (2005-7-30 14:48:28): off to visit you all redsaid says to (2005-7-30 14:48:40): What's your URL Mar Cela? dar says to (2005-7-30 14:48:42): red, just added you to my bloglines to watch for a while. redsaid says to (2005-7-30 14:48:54): Thanks Dar-ling! mar cela says to (2005-7-30 14:49:11): I'm the hidden blog... *** (2005-7-30 14:49:21):Welcome to BlogHer Conference Chat , rantfaery ! redsaid says to (2005-7-30 14:49:27): Hey Rant! alizasherman says to (2005-7-30 14:49:38): hey, if everybody could quickly post their blog URLs up here, I'll make a note and visit them so I can pretend to be working on my blog book. If I mention your blog in the book, will email you. *** (2005-7-30 14:49:52):Welcome to BlogHer Conference Chat , Regina Philangie ! larkspur says to (2005-7-30 14:49:55): Gotta do some actual real-life errands. Hope to see some of y'all later! redsaid says to (2005-7-30 14:50:4): Yes, that's a great idea. I want to visit everyone! rantfaery says to (2005-7-30 14:50:4): do blogs count as anything, like cheesy livejournals, even? ;) redsaid says to (2005-7-30 14:50:8): redsaid.net rantfaery says to (2005-7-30 14:50:9): {whistle_smiley} redsaid says to (2005-7-30 14:50:16): Aw, Lark! Bye, we'll miss you! larkspur says to (2005-7-30 14:50:31): cheesy LJ? OMG, you maketh the larkspur to weep... *** (2005-7-30 14:50:31):Regina Philangie quit the room *** (2005-7-30 14:50:35):Welcome to BlogHer Conference Chat , outtabodymommy ! dar says to (2005-7-30 14:50:35): well alize, you saw my personal one. I also have a creative challenge blog: simplestilllife.blogspot.com Rachel says to (2005-7-30 14:50:36): aliza: i've captured all the ones here, so I can go back later: http://www.bibrik.com/wiki/index.php/Blogher laura says to Karen (2005-7-30 14:50:37): www.pingVision.com {laugh_smiley} redsaid says to (2005-7-30 14:50:38): Mar Cela, give us your URL! Or do you want to remain the hidden blog? redsaid says to (2005-7-30 14:50:45): Hei Mommy! mediagirl says to alizasherman (2005-7-30 14:50:49): you got mine now *** (2005-7-30 14:50:51):larkspur quit the room *** (2005-7-30 14:50:56):rantfaery quit the room outtabodymommy says to (2005-7-30 14:50:58): HI red mediagirl says to (2005-7-30 14:51:18): looks like larkspur was hurt by the LJ comment mediagirl says to (2005-7-30 14:51:21): lol! outtabodymommy says to (2005-7-30 14:51:36): so, how is the conference going? mar cela says to (2005-7-30 14:51:44): good night everybody and enjoy the conference dar says to (2005-7-30 14:51:46): Rachel, thank you. *** (2005-7-30 14:51:47):mar cela quit the room redsaid says to (2005-7-30 14:51:52): In here? Delightful mayhem! dar says to (2005-7-30 14:51:57): buena sera marcela outtabodymommy says to (2005-7-30 14:51:58): lucky! redsaid says to (2005-7-30 14:52:6): Bye Mar Cela! *** (2005-7-30 14:52:6):Live Bloghers! http://www.blogher.org/2005/07/track_blogher_l.html outtabodymommy says to (2005-7-30 14:52:20): any talk of teats yet? alizasherman says to (2005-7-30 14:52:30): rachel - thanks! redsaid says to (2005-7-30 14:52:37): Don't know! I'm in Maryland. laura says to Karen (2005-7-30 14:52:40): What are people's thoughts about "blogging naked" -- as in using your real name and blogging about real life? Rachel says to (2005-7-30 14:52:49): dar -no probs. they'll all be in the transcipt, but this means I don't have to hunt for them laura says (2005-7-30 14:52:55): everyone redsaid says to (2005-7-30 14:53:8): Brave, Laura. outtabodymommy says to (2005-7-30 14:53:17): I use my real name on my blog Rachel says to (2005-7-30 14:53:33): I use my real name, outtabodymommy says to (2005-7-30 14:53:34): as far as real life, well, I tweak it alizasherman says to (2005-7-30 14:53:38): darn - I was hoping it actually meant naked. my mediagirlblog.com blog is naked then. redsaid says to (2005-7-30 14:53:51): By doing that, you guys, do you find you censor what you're able to say? Rachel says to (2005-7-30 14:54:0): but careful what I write about (ie not work and not too personal) outtabodymommy says to (2005-7-30 14:54:4): I always make sure I have my clothes on when I set down to type though. ;) redsaid says to (2005-7-30 14:54:6): Aha, I see, Mommy. *** (2005-7-30 14:54:12):Welcome to BlogHer Conference Chat , sisoma ! redsaid says to (2005-7-30 14:54:14): Hahahaha. alizasherman says to (2005-7-30 14:54:15): outta - exactly - I tell my husband who diligently reads all 6 of my blogs that each is a tiny sliver of real life totally from my perspective so reality be damned Rachel says to (2005-7-30 14:54:18): and yes - i think I self censor redsaid says to (2005-7-30 14:54:19): Welcome back sisoma. Karen says to laura (2005-7-30 14:54:26): Using a real name may be okay. I suppose it has to do with what you are revealing. If I am a politician, it might be helpful Jo Spanglemonkey says to (2005-7-30 14:54:30): I don't use my real name, but I'm out with most of my friends. We have what we call the "hive mind" because we all blog so much outtabodymommy says to (2005-7-30 14:54:34): Red, because I know people who read my blog I have to be sensitive to what I write laura says (2005-7-30 14:54:49): One of the guests at the conference is Heather Armstrong redsaid says to (2005-7-30 14:54:52): Yeah, that's what I thought. redsaid says to (2005-7-30 14:54:59): Right, Dooce. redsaid says to (2005-7-30 14:55:11): Famous for her naked blogging. laura says (2005-7-30 14:55:17): ...and being "Dooced" is to be fired for blogging outtabodymommy says to (2005-7-30 14:55:17): ah Dooce...would love to meet her redsaid says to (2005-7-30 14:55:49): Yeah, she's hilarious. alizasherman says to (2005-7-30 14:55:58): I blog more nakedly on my miscarriage blog babyfruit.com than on the one with my name. redsaid says to (2005-7-30 14:56:6): I'm glad that her firing has turned into such a positive, larger than life experience for her. laura says (2005-7-30 14:56:8): With those kinds of stakes, is it any wonder people choose to use pseudonyms? alizasherman says to (2005-7-30 14:56:12): I'll talk about ANYthing on my miscarriage blog. outtabodymommy says to (2005-7-30 14:56:24): what is the URL aliza? alizasherman says to (2005-7-30 14:56:31): babyfruit.com redsaid says to (2005-7-30 14:56:31): Oh, wait Aliza, I have to write all these URLs down. laura says (2005-7-30 14:56:46): I hae a personal blog, and it's anonymous, so I can rant away. And I keep it from business, too, so I can rant away. outtabodymommy says to (2005-7-30 14:57:12): what is your url red? redsaid says to (2005-7-30 14:57:14): I don't reveal my real name on my site, but some of my friends/family know about my blog. alizasherman says to (2005-7-30 14:57:15): I love working for myself - can't get fired for all the naked blogging and blogging about female reproductive failures. laura says (2005-7-30 14:57:16): Using my real name, I try to be more polite redsaid says to (2005-7-30 14:57:18): www.redsaid.net redsaid says to (2005-7-30 14:57:39): And I'm unemployed (in immigration limbo) so it doesn't matter what I say! redsaid says to (2005-7-30 14:57:50): But I treat mine more like a column. redsaid says to (2005-7-30 14:58:2): What's yours, Mommy? Karen says to (2005-7-30 14:58:3): Because the world is virtual, we tend not to realize it can come into the real world. dar says to (2005-7-30 14:58:5): my name is on my blog... but if I'm hoping to build some of my name as an artist, than it helps. and using my real name means I try to keep it civil. laura says (2005-7-30 14:58:10): Ah but Googling is now part of the hiring process outtabodymommy says to (2005-7-30 14:58:10): www.outtabodymommy.blogspot.com *** (2005-7-30 14:58:19):guest2500 lost connection, left the room dar says to (2005-7-30 14:58:25): I did, however, remove too much information about my location. Karen says to (2005-7-30 14:58:50): People can say things about themsleves and feel safe, but then again, we can sometimes say too much. Even our hairdresser knows things she shouldn't... redsaid says to (2005-7-30 14:59:0): Oh, Laura! That's true! I didn't think about that! alizasherman says to (2005-7-30 14:59:9): laura - then I'll never get hired again! mediagirl says to (2005-7-30 14:59:10): There is no way no how nobody going to get me to blog using my real name. dar says to (2005-7-30 14:59:15): I must do something wrong... I've blogged almost every day for a year, and when I google my name.. I get a nurse in Ga. redsaid says to (2005-7-30 14:59:30): Hahahaha, dar! mediagirl says to (2005-7-30 14:59:41): The MRA trolls are upsetting enough, without having them showing up at the door. outtabodymommy says to (2005-7-30 14:59:47): MRA? redsaid says to (2005-7-30 15:0:6): Yeah, mediagirl, sometimes I regret that even just a few real life friends/family know about my site. mediagirl says to (2005-7-30 15:0:14): men's rights activists -- the guys that call girls like me "Ameriskanks" Karen says to (2005-7-30 15:0:15): Mafia Relief Army redsaid says to (2005-7-30 15:0:15): Yeah, what's MRA? redsaid says to (2005-7-30 15:0:23): Hahahaha! Sounds... scary? *** (2005-7-30 15:0:27):BlogHer chatroom transcripts: http://www.pingv.com/personal-blog-entry/laura/200507/blogher-chatroom-transcripts Rachel says to (2005-7-30 15:0:29): Dar - put your name in the title of your blog. search engines will pickit up from there alizasherman says to (2005-7-30 15:0:34): hey, does anybody know any good health, wellness, fitness blogs? I'm on that part in my book right now and google is giving me bupkas. outtabodymommy says to (2005-7-30 15:0:36): me too Red, I can't complain about my mother ever since she got on the web mediagirl says to (2005-7-30 15:0:46): They are the ones who think feminists are multi-billionaires who are really running the world dar says to (2005-7-30 15:0:51): Do you edit yourself because of who might be reading your blog? outtabodymommy says to (2005-7-30 15:0:58): you are writing ab ook Aliza? Congrats! Karen says to (2005-7-30 15:0:59): Yes! Billionaire women mediagirl says to (2005-7-30 15:1:2): ...and are beating up men, but not letting the media report it. redsaid says to (2005-7-30 15:1:12): putdownthedonut is one. But I think I'm getting the url wrong. I'll let you know Aliza. outtabodymommy says to (2005-7-30 15:1:18): Dar--absolutely alizasherman says to (2005-7-30 15:1:23): mommy-yes - about blogs and blogging. thanks red! dar says to (2005-7-30 15:1:42): and is editing yourself a good thing? redsaid says to (2005-7-30 15:1:49): You're welcome. outtabodymommy says to (2005-7-30 15:1:55): yes laura says (2005-7-30 15:1:56): What's more naked than writing a book about blogging? An intersting topic. redsaid says to (2005-7-30 15:2:0): No! redsaid says to (2005-7-30 15:2:2): Hahahaha. outtabodymommy says to (2005-7-30 15:2:17): I blog because when I write about my life and I edit it to fit it changes my persepctive redsaid says to (2005-7-30 15:2:18): Seriously though, why do you think having to edit yourself is good? redsaid says to (2005-7-30 15:2:27): Because you're thinking about the consequences of your words? Karen says to (2005-7-30 15:2:30): Sharing a journal with anyone is getting pretty "naked." outtabodymommy says to (2005-7-30 15:2:39): for example, if I ha having the worst day ever but I find humor in something little and that is what I blog about...that is what I remember about that day redsaid says to (2005-7-30 15:2:42): Yeah, that's true, Karen. dar says to (2005-7-30 15:2:53): Often because I'm thinking about the consequences. but in a different way. redsaid says to (2005-7-30 15:2:56): Okay, that's also a good point then, Mommy. redsaid says to (2005-7-30 15:3:6): How do you mean, Dar? Karen says to (2005-7-30 15:3:8): Yet, there is a positive aspect as well. Otherwise we live without ever sharing. outtabodymommy says to (2005-7-30 15:3:19): I try not to bitch and cry about my life--what good does that do? Karen says to (2005-7-30 15:3:33): Release? redsaid says to (2005-7-30 15:3:45): That's true. When you write from that perspective you'll automatically be more optimistic about your life, right? dar says to (2005-7-30 15:3:47): I do not edit anything about MYSELF. but I am careful to not say anything really negative about someone else and give hints as to who it really is. Karen says to (2005-7-30 15:3:48): Every story has power redsaid says to (2005-7-30 15:3:59): Ah, I see, Dar. outtabodymommy says to (2005-7-30 15:4:8): good point Karen, but who wants to read that? I don't enjoy reading blogs that are "Woe is me" alizasherman says to (2005-7-30 15:4:9): my miscarriage blog is to help me stay sane and hopefully help other women, my mediagirlblog is just random thoughts, my travelgirl.com blog is about road trips, travel and new places; each one is a different side of me, each one has different degrees of nakedness. laura says (2005-7-30 15:4:26): From the conf: Q: What do you worry about by putting yourself out there? A: Heather: It's been a long process. Developing a network of friends has helped because there is a huge group of people that have been there to support me. A: Ronnie: The personal benefits have been enormous to me. I know my self a lot better now. I made a point from day one to make a rule that I would always say how old I am. And what happened is that it's just not a big deal anymore. Rachel says to (2005-7-30 15:4:32): aliza: http://www.forbes.com/bow/b2c/category.jhtml?id=313 laura says (2005-7-30 15:4:41): A: Koan: I write for the people that are going for the same process that I am going through. There are many others that are going through the same thing as me that are being ostricised and hurt and I wanted to be able to help them. Rachel says to (2005-7-30 15:4:46): that's a good start for fitness blogs Karen says to outtabodymommy (2005-7-30 15:4:48): My thought would be it might be about how we overcome and deal with adversity. remembering our strengths outtabodymommy says to (2005-7-30 15:5:3): good point Karen alizasherman says to (2005-7-30 15:5:6): my husband hates that I put him in one blog as G. (to keep his identity private) and another as "my hubby". He tought I was ashamed of him or something. Martine says to (2005-7-30 15:5:15): Aliza: would you ever consider mixing all your blogs? *** (2005-7-30 15:5:30):Welcome to BlogHer Conference Chat , Michele ! redsaid says to (2005-7-30 15:5:32): Yes. You know, I actually do that to an extent. Because I am going through the immigration process here in the US all by myself, and it's very difficult. dar says to (2005-7-30 15:5:35): My blog means that I AM PUBLIC. however, that is not license to be public about anyone else. The only beings regularly referred to in my blog by name are my dogs. outtabodymommy says to (2005-7-30 15:5:46): but for me, blogging is about amusement. When I need release I give that to someone close to me. *** (2005-7-30 15:5:47):Welcome to BlogHer Conference Chat , Karyn ! alizasherman says to (2005-7-30 15:5:55): rachel - thanks! redsaid says to (2005-7-30 15:6:5): Hey Michele and Karyn! dar says to (2005-7-30 15:6:9): and I'm working really hard to find the humor in my life. alizasherman says to (2005-7-30 15:6:13): martine - mixing as in blending them into one? Martine says to (2005-7-30 15:6:18): Yes Michele says to (2005-7-30 15:6:21): hi outtabodymommy says to (2005-7-30 15:6:28): hi Michele dar says to (2005-7-30 15:6:35): THOSE ARE FABULOUS QUOTES YOU STUCK IN THERE, Laura. Thank you. Michele says to (2005-7-30 15:6:37): hi dar says to (2005-7-30 15:6:48): howdy michele redsaid says to (2005-7-30 15:7:2): Michele, we're chatting about blogging "naked", using your real identity on your blog. Michele says to (2005-7-30 15:7:5): hi dar! Michele says to (2005-7-30 15:7:23): I am semi naked in mine. alizasherman says to (2005-7-30 15:7:30): martine - no - too confusing. I think women who want to read about miscarriage won't be even mildly interested in reading about the time I met John Waite on the streets of NYC. And people reading about travel couldn't care less about my uterus. I keep them separate for focus and for marketing purposes. dar says to (2005-7-30 15:7:35): I am so naked in my blog that 2 weeks ago, when I announced that I was GOING TO lose 20# by the end of the year... I posted my weight and measurements. Michele says to (2005-7-30 15:7:39): I am preparing a novel and use part of my id. redsaid says to (2005-7-30 15:7:39): First name but no last name? ;-) outtabodymommy says to (2005-7-30 15:7:47): the best part of blogging for me is that I can make fun of my crazies, when I mock myself I can see the humor and it makes it easier. Michele says to (2005-7-30 15:7:55): My first name. dar says to (2005-7-30 15:8:7): outofbody... YES. that's it. redsaid says to (2005-7-30 15:8:7): Cool. Martine says to (2005-7-30 15:8:10): Aliza: thanks. That's interesting. redsaid says to (2005-7-30 15:8:19): And yes, Aliza, I understand and agree with you about focus. Martine says to (2005-7-30 15:8:34): I know many women who keep multiple, separate blogs but I only know one guy who does that outtabodymommy says to (2005-7-30 15:8:35): there is nothing funny about hiding in the closet when the meter man comes...until you write it and read it and see that it is nuts redsaid says to (2005-7-30 15:8:39): By the way, how would you guys define your blogs?: *** (2005-7-30 15:8:48):(Remember: Chat logs will be republished) *** (2005-7-30 15:8:50):Welcome to BlogHer Conference Chat , thumbelina ! redsaid says to (2005-7-30 15:8:54): hAHAHAHAHAHAHA redsaid says to (2005-7-30 15:9:4): Hi thumbelina! Michele says to (2005-7-30 15:9:6): I know several people who keep several blogs. I don't know how they have time. dar says to (2005-7-30 15:9:10): hahahahahahaha. I love that. alizasherman says to (2005-7-30 15:9:11): red - yeah, I hate going to a blog and thinking "what the hell is this about?" - especially since I have to be very focused with the blogs I mention in my book. *** (2005-7-30 15:9:27):doodle lost connection, left the room redsaid says to (2005-7-30 15:9:42): Oops, in that case I suppose I should be more defined. That's why I'm asking, because I don't think I have a theme, per se. alizasherman says to (2005-7-30 15:9:53): I keep 6 and 2 are pretty much daily, 2 are weekly and 2 are occasional. redsaid says to (2005-7-30 15:10:7): Aliza=Wonderblogger! Michele says to (2005-7-30 15:10:13): Some keep prayer blogs. alizasherman says to (2005-7-30 15:10:20): red - actually, just a totally insane woman. Karen says to (2005-7-30 15:10:27): I suppose we would not put in a blog something we were not prepared to see on the front page of the Wall Street Journal -- at least that's what one excutive advised about expense reports. redsaid says to (2005-7-30 15:10:27): Michele, you said you are writing a book too? 'Bout what, if I may ask? Martine says to (2005-7-30 15:10:31): I talk about everything that interests me on my blog, but I focus on screenwriting (my trade), Montreal and technology. I guess it could be confusing for newcomers, especially that I blog in English AND in French! Rachel says to (2005-7-30 15:10:35): red, I'm the same. Not a tight focus, more a genral one. I was thinking about splitting some things up dar says to (2005-7-30 15:10:37): I am amazed at the women who sign on to blog on an artquilt ring.. and spend all their blog time discussing trying to get pregnant. Michele says to (2005-7-30 15:11:5): It is about experiences in the 60's and 70's of a female artist and poet. redsaid says to (2005-7-30 15:11:12): Oooh, la la, Martine! (And I'm afraid that's about all I can say en Francaise!) ;-) dar says to (2005-7-30 15:11:23): I have my personal/art blog. I have one I want to start where I might sell a few things. and I have the challenge blog... *** (2005-7-30 15:11:45):Karyn lost connection, left the room redsaid says to (2005-7-30 15:11:52): I mean, I have categories, but mostly I put everything under miscellaneous, ha ha! (I would clearly never make a good office assistant. Filing everything under M for Misc!) Michele says to (2005-7-30 15:11:59): Dar...what is the challenge blog? Karen says to (2005-7-30 15:12:1): If someone seized my computer and got access to my hard drive, I'd have nothing for that I'd be ashamed of -- not saying I'm not ashamed of things I'd done...just wouldn't have it on the hard drive. alizasherman says to (2005-7-30 15:12:1): dar - yeah, see, it's a topic focus thing. I also need to keep my blog topics relatively separate so I know what the heck I'm blogging about on any given day. dar says to (2005-7-30 15:12:27): Michel,e, check it out: asimplestilllife.blogspot.com mediagirl says to (2005-7-30 15:12:41): has anyone been to www.OurWord.org ? alizasherman says to (2005-7-30 15:12:44): red - categories are a great way to start sorting - I keep coming up with new ones as I blog. if one category gets way more posts than another, it could be a blog unto itself redsaid says to (2005-7-30 15:12:51): I still want to participate in that, Dar. dar says to (2005-7-30 15:12:55): mg, not yet. mediagirl says to dar (2005-7-30 15:13:14): it's very new, like 2 weeks redsaid says to (2005-7-30 15:13:17): Not yet, Mediagirl. alizasherman says to (2005-7-30 15:13:21): I've been posting online since 1995 so I have no secrets, it seems. *** (2005-7-30 15:13:28):thumbelina lost connection, left the room redsaid says to (2005-7-30 15:13:35): Wow, it's amazing! A decade! Karen says to (2005-7-30 15:13:40): I keep coming up with new secrets *** (2005-7-30 15:13:41):outtabodymommy lost connection, left the room mediagirl says to (2005-7-30 15:13:48): it's a women's site Michele says to (2005-7-30 15:13:51): Dar...couldn't make the connection. mediagirl says to (2005-7-30 15:13:56): rather political redsaid says to (2005-7-30 15:14:7): Cool. Global politics or local? *** (2005-7-30 15:14:16):Welcome to BlogHer Conference Chat , goldy36 ! mediagirl says to (2005-7-30 15:14:19): both redsaid says to (2005-7-30 15:14:25): Awesome! alizasherman says to (2005-7-30 15:14:26): dar - eeee - has it been a freaking decade? I've been online since 1987 but didn't hit the Web until 1994 redsaid says to (2005-7-30 15:14:29): Hey goldy! goldy36 says to (2005-7-30 15:14:43): hi alizasherman says to (2005-7-30 15:14:53): gotta let the chihuahuas out - be back in a sec (http://www.cyberchewie.com) *** (2005-7-30 15:14:58):Welcome to BlogHer Conference Chat , suitablegirl ! Karen says to (2005-7-30 15:15:1): But the web was not around until about 1994 - not like it is now. It has to do with the infra-structure, I think. redsaid says to (2005-7-30 15:15:6): Awww, cute, Aliza! redsaid says to (2005-7-30 15:15:11): Hey Suitablegirl! suitablegirl says to (2005-7-30 15:15:18): hi! Michele says to (2005-7-30 15:15:21): Alaiza..that is amazing. I moved to SV in 1995 but saw the web work in SF in 1994. Saw it in Boston in 1988 in medical work. laura says (2005-7-30 15:15:35): I first got online in '94 on CompuServe redsaid says to (2005-7-30 15:15:47): Wow, in South Africa, I only went online in 1995 for the first time! Karen says to (2005-7-30 15:15:51): 94 was when everyone got served laura says (2005-7-30 15:15:54): Those were the days (not!) suitablegirl says to (2005-7-30 15:16:0): '94 uc davis Karen says to (2005-7-30 15:16:1): Before that it was really arcane Michele says to (2005-7-30 15:16:6): I studied web design in 1995 here in the Valley and we were told about DVD's then. redsaid says to (2005-7-30 15:16:7): S...l...o...w dial-up! Karen says to (2005-7-30 15:16:23): The resources were not there. Karen says to (2005-7-30 15:16:33): Think in 10 years? WOW laura says (2005-7-30 15:16:35): You don't have to tell me. I had to type my college papers. Only the rich kid down the hall had a computer. alizasherman says to (2005-7-30 15:16:46): I learned about the Web in 1994 through a 1 hour HTML class in Santa Fe NM of all places! Put my first site up Jan 1995 - The Web According to Cybergrrl. Basically an old fashioned, primitive weblog programmed from scratch. redsaid says to (2005-7-30 15:16:46): I know! Can you imagine what the future holds? dar says to (2005-7-30 15:16:51): I've been online since 1992... but it was a freenet. *** (2005-7-30 15:16:55):Welcome to BlogHer Conference Chat , mar cela ! Karen says to (2005-7-30 15:16:57): I used a quill and ink... {typing_smiley} redsaid says to (2005-7-30 15:17:5): 'Hi again, Marcela! *** (2005-7-30 15:17:9):Blogher photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/blogher/ redsaid says to (2005-7-30 15:17:11): Hahahaha, Karen! alizasherman says to (2005-7-30 15:17:12): does anyone remember Women's Wire, the BBS for women? mar cela says to (2005-7-30 15:17:13): hi dar says to (2005-7-30 15:17:27): I heard of it. redsaid says to (2005-7-30 15:17:32): Nope, Aliza. Michele says to (2005-7-30 15:17:33): Karen...love it {flower_smiley} mediagirl says to (2005-7-30 15:17:44): I did journaling using a web design program until '92, when I discovered Xanga (after LJ wouldn't have me without $$) suitablegirl says to (2005-7-30 15:17:55): is anyone at BlogHer or are you at home? {smile_smiley} Karen says to (2005-7-30 15:17:58): Seriously, in 10 years we will be VERY interactive redsaid says to (2005-7-30 15:18:0): Ugh, Live Journal! redsaid says to (2005-7-30 15:18:6): I'm at home, Suitable. dar says to (2005-7-30 15:18:8): I am at home. Michele says to (2005-7-30 15:18:17): Home alizasherman says to (2005-7-30 15:18:19): women's wire was up in the early 90s - the only online service exclusively for women. they later became a web site in 1996. Karen says to (2005-7-30 15:18:24): Pseudo images and touchies and things redsaid says to (2005-7-30 15:18:31): How do you think the web will have evolved in a decade? Karen says to (2005-7-30 15:18:41): Certainly 3D will be real goldy36 says to (2005-7-30 15:18:45): I am at home, which is also work redsaid says to (2005-7-30 15:18:46): Can we even imagine it? laura says (2005-7-30 15:18:47): I think it will splinter, personally Karen says to (2005-7-30 15:18:54): No screens, but feather spec glasses redsaid says to (2005-7-30 15:18:56): Really, Laura? Karen says to (2005-7-30 15:18:59): eye glasses redsaid says to (2005-7-30 15:18:59): Into what? *** (2005-7-30 15:19:2):sisoma quit the room laura says (2005-7-30 15:19:3): There's the "new" internet that's being developed dar says to (2005-7-30 15:19:5): I think it will be more integrated... Michele says to (2005-7-30 15:19:6): I will probably spend less time online because it will be faster. laura says (2005-7-30 15:19:12): Then there's the corporate/government darknet *** (2005-7-30 15:19:14):mar cela quit the room Karen says to (2005-7-30 15:19:29): The home computer will vanish and it will be a largely distributed system laura says (2005-7-30 15:19:32): And then you have the proprietary corporate-owned broadband systems that will become their own brands Michele says to (2005-7-30 15:19:36): It will be more global. alizasherman says to (2005-7-30 15:19:39): think about where everyone said the Web would be in 10 years back in 1995. from a technology standpoint, the wild predictions never materialized. redsaid says to (2005-7-30 15:19:45): Oh, I hope more global! Karen says to (2005-7-30 15:19:45): The computer will be like electric outlets -everwhere. alizasherman says to (2005-7-30 15:19:59): karen - i like that idea *** (2005-7-30 15:20:6):antonella lost connection, left the room laura says (2005-7-30 15:20:9): And you'll have to pay in money, privacy and freedom in order to play in the media-rich internets *** (2005-7-30 15:20:22):suitablegirl quit the room dar says to (2005-7-30 15:20:23): karen, I think that one is a long way off. that means changing infrastructure, and altering architecture. Michele says to (2005-7-30 15:20:27): Hackers will have to be fixed because they swipe the cards in wireless hotspots. laura says (2005-7-30 15:20:33): It's already happening. redsaid says to (2005-7-30 15:20:37): Just think, in a few years'time no one will ever have to leave their houses! Karen says to (2005-7-30 15:20:41): In ten years look how far we've come. laura says (2005-7-30 15:20:43): Just a matter of time, and where the financial incentives are Karen says to (2005-7-30 15:20:56): Moore's Law applies to more than chip size goldy36 says to (2005-7-30 15:21:5): I think it will probably be more integrated with media and complete entertainment, more portable and probably be even more public than it is now Michele says to (2005-7-30 15:21:6): I work and play at home more now than ever. redsaid says to (2005-7-30 15:21:10): What's Moore's Law, Karen? laura says (2005-7-30 15:21:13): It will be bigger, richer, freer and more restrictive in so many ways that we cannot imagine. Karen says to (2005-7-30 15:21:19): In 1994 I was impressed as hell with the 500MB Rambo for $750! redsaid says to (2005-7-30 15:21:26): Me too, Michele. Which I don't know is always such a good thing. Karen says to (2005-7-30 15:21:29): A disc drive from Connor dar says to (2005-7-30 15:21:35): but those financial incentives mean that the common man will lose some sense of control over their environment. alizasherman says to (2005-7-30 15:21:41): what I find interesting is that the popularity of today's blogs are really reverting us back to the early Web sites when we were all posting about of lives, our jobs, our worlds. so we have come full circle. redsaid says to (2005-7-30 15:21:57): Yeah, that's true, Aliza. Karen says to (2005-7-30 15:21:58): Now we're talking terabytes. We have flat screens and photographs from ink jets Michele says to (2005-7-30 15:22:4): Right, I would like to travel and be online...I mean around the world. Don't know how easy that is. Karen says to (2005-7-30 15:22:5): We scan and optically read dar says to (2005-7-30 15:22:15): thats true aliza. we all want to feel connected to the world. dar says to (2005-7-30 15:22:40): michele, it can be done, but not all that easily. alizasherman says to (2005-7-30 15:22:41): exactly! connection, communication, community - the 3 C's as I used to call it back then. It is all very relevant in blogging today. redsaid says to (2005-7-30 15:22:44): Oh, it would be wonderful for literacy if everyone has computer access. mediagirl says to (2005-7-30 15:22:51): I'm going to run off to see the world before it becomes obsolete with the next release of internet. Bye everyone! redsaid says to (2005-7-30 15:23:0): Bye Mediagirl! alizasherman says to (2005-7-30 15:23:1): bye mediagirl. *** (2005-7-30 15:23:5):Welcome to BlogHer Conference Chat , Petite_Isla ! laura says (2005-7-30 15:23:8): Gearing up for the next section redsaid says to (2005-7-30 15:23:11): Hi Petite! *** (2005-7-30 15:23:17):mediagirl quit the room Petite_Isla says to (2005-7-30 15:23:23): hi Michele says to (2005-7-30 15:23:25): I saw a blog from two hikers who hiked the Pacific Rim Trail up in Washington. They entered every day and I'm not sure how. goldy36 says to (2005-7-30 15:23:40): We all want to feel connected to each other, especiallly us women, and it means we never have to leave homes, so in one sense we achieve our gol, yet in another we areless connected because there is no personal interaction alizasherman says to (2005-7-30 15:23:43): where is that blog michele? I want to write about it! Jo Spanglemonkey says to (2005-7-30 15:23:44): Possibly mobile phone? laura says (2005-7-30 15:23:57): I'm going to put up the transcript for the past hour, then introduce the new topics and live bloggers. BRB redsaid says to (2005-7-30 15:24:10): Thanks, Laura.