BLOGHER CONFERENCE '05 CHATROOM TRANSCRIPTS SECTION 6 (of 6) (raw logs) Karen says to (2005-7-30 16:29:13): But prayer group or otherwise, I think it can be intimate when minds meet. What are these bodies, anyway? We speak through air, then through wire, now wireless and still it all starts from the same place inside us. laura says (2005-7-30 16:29:38): NEW SESSIONS: laura says (2005-7-30 16:29:41): Room 1:Get Your Word Out: Audio/Video-casting live-bloggers: Melissa Gira http://www.sacredwhore.org/mobwhorelog/index.html Karen says to (2005-7-30 16:29:43): ah laura says (2005-7-30 16:29:55): Room2: $$ and Sense live-bloggers: Jill Fallon http://www.estatelegacyvaults.com/%20target=new laura says (2005-7-30 16:30:11): Room 3: brownbloggers.com goes west live-bloggers: Nicole Johnson http://www.posthipchick.blogspot.com/ video: Rene Amini http://www.luxomedia.com/ laura says (2005-7-30 16:30:17): note the video there laura says (2005-7-30 16:30:28): Room 4: MommyBlogging live-bloggers: Donna Mills http://socalmom.typepad.com/ laura says (2005-7-30 16:30:40): Room 5: Be the RSS Queen: Syndicate your content and become your industry's info guru live-bloggers: mir verburg http://www.flinknet.com/theflink laura says (2005-7-30 16:30:51): Any of these strike anyone's fancy? Karen says to (2005-7-30 16:31:2): There's that mommy blogging again, that I never did come to understand Michele says to (2005-7-30 16:31:14): Room 5. I will try. Karen says to (2005-7-30 16:31:46): audio/video casting - you know me, laura, but I'll go along with whatever anyone else wants. It seems we cover most of the ground usually. leahbrooks says to (2005-7-30 16:31:57): I'm checking out the video *** (2005-7-30 16:32:15):Live Bloghers! http://www.blogher.org/2005/07/track_blogher_l.html rkrato says to (2005-7-30 16:32:47): I have an interest in parent blogging as I'm raising two daughters *** (2005-7-30 16:32:58):Welcome to BlogHer Conference Chat , stevenzenith ! Karen says to (2005-7-30 16:33:6): parent blogging as in "how do I raise children?" rkrato says to (2005-7-30 16:33:28): or, here is how I'm raising my children, how are you doing it? rkrato says to (2005-7-30 16:33:49): what is working, or not, for you Karen says to (2005-7-30 16:33:58): A friend once said, "they don't come with an instruction manual." I understand, I think. *** (2005-7-30 16:33:58):Michele quit the room *** (2005-7-30 16:33:59):lezzles lost connection, left the room *** (2005-7-30 16:36:51):stevenzenith lost connection, left the room rkrato says to (2005-7-30 16:37:4): Sometimes I think that there is no understanding two teen aged girls {smile_smiley} laura says (2005-7-30 16:37:15): Here are some podcasts: http://www.luxomedia.com/blog/ *** (2005-7-30 16:37:19):Welcome to BlogHer Conference Chat , stevenzenith ! stevenzenith says to (2005-7-30 16:38:36): sympathetic father of teenage girls here :-) rkrato says to (2005-7-30 16:38:59): It's fun isn't it? Karen says to (2005-7-30 16:39:12): I think parenting has got to be a challenge of huge proportion stevenzenith says to (2005-7-30 16:39:13): tell me about it ... :( *** (2005-7-30 16:39:50):Welcome to BlogHer Conference Chat , nancytubbs ! rkrato says to (2005-7-30 16:39:59): it's quite a responsibility, and keeps you always on your toes. *** (2005-7-30 16:40:18):nancytubbs quit the room *** (2005-7-30 16:40:19):Welcome to BlogHer Conference Chat , Jeanne ! stevenzenith says to (2005-7-30 16:40:35): there was an interesting special a month or two ago (in USA News) about how the teenage brain develops *** (2005-7-30 16:40:36):BlogHer chatroom transcripts: http://www.pingv.com/personal-blog-entry/laura/200507/blogher-chatroom-transcripts stevenzenith says to (2005-7-30 16:40:41): worth reading Jeanne says to (2005-7-30 16:41:19): I read about the conference in this mornings paper. How's it going? stevenzenith says to (2005-7-30 16:41:39): there is a significant physiological disruption going on in the brain of teenagers Karen says to (2005-7-30 16:41:47): I believe the conference is a huge success so far as the recent reports stevenzenith says to (2005-7-30 16:42:1): (I know, we parents already knew that) Karen says to (2005-7-30 16:42:12): I know my teenage brain had some disputions. Karen says to (2005-7-30 16:42:31): I would never want to do that over again stevenzenith says to (2005-7-30 16:42:45): ditto *** (2005-7-30 16:42:46):fp lost connection, left the room rkrato says to (2005-7-30 16:42:47): I read some things recently realted to that and driving. Challenges that teens face because of limitations on the development of thier brains. stevenzenith says to (2005-7-30 16:43:11): yeah - as I read it no-one under 22 should be on the roads rkrato says to (2005-7-30 16:43:12): suggested that they don't start driving until later in the teen years. Karen says to (2005-7-30 16:43:15): fast reflecexs, but not judgement Jeanne says to (2005-7-30 16:43:21): If I had teenagers, after reading that report, I wouldn't let them dirve! rkrato says to (2005-7-30 16:43:28): derive? Jeanne says to (2005-7-30 16:43:38): taht too. Karen says to (2005-7-30 16:43:47): Depends on the kid. rkrato says to (2005-7-30 16:43:58): It's hard riding in the passenger seat with my oldest who will be sixteen next week. Jeanne says to (2005-7-30 16:43:59): No, it realy is physical. stevenzenith says to (2005-7-30 16:44:4): no - that's the thing - it does not depend on the kid Karen says to (2005-7-30 16:44:5): I drove at 16 and was okay stevenzenith says to (2005-7-30 16:44:18): they all have the same challenge stevenzenith says to (2005-7-30 16:44:20): some get luck Jeanne says to (2005-7-30 16:44:21): or just lucky Karen says to (2005-7-30 16:44:23): Never had an accident or ticket stevenzenith says to (2005-7-30 16:44:25): right stevenzenith says to (2005-7-30 16:44:41): just lucky - me too by the way stevenzenith says to (2005-7-30 16:46:1): is anyone here in the conference? Karen says to (2005-7-30 16:46:1): So, no driving for your kids? *** (2005-7-30 16:46:1):Martine quit the room stevenzenith says to (2005-7-30 16:46:1): I wish ... Karen says to (2005-7-30 16:46:10): What's the problem of teen brains and hand-eye co-ordination? *** (2005-7-30 16:46:12):leahbrooks lost connection, left the room stevenzenith says to (2005-7-30 16:46:26): no - it is simple developmental issues stevenzenith says to (2005-7-30 16:46:36): the brain is not fully developed Karen says to (2005-7-30 16:46:40): ok *** (2005-7-30 16:46:59):Welcome to BlogHer Conference Chat , jheuristic ! rkrato says to (2005-7-30 16:47:9): " By most physical measures, teenagers should be the world's best drivers. Their muscles are supple, their reflexes quick, their senses at a lifetime peak. Yet car crashes kill more of them than any other cause -- a problem, some researchers believe, that is rooted in the adolescent brain. A National Institutes of Health study suggests that the region of the brain that inhibits risky behavior is not fully formed until age 25, a finding with implications for a host of policies, including the nation's drivi" stevenzenith says to (2005-7-30 16:47:15): (don't tell your teenage that :-) *** (2005-7-30 16:47:20):Welcome to BlogHer Conference Chat , gleanlife ! rkrato says to (2005-7-30 16:47:26): Exerpt from a Washington Post articel. rkrato says to (2005-7-30 16:47:33): *article* Jeanne says to (2005-7-30 16:47:41): I went to bad girly driving school once. (Minor ticket thing, really). The instructor said she would never allow her child to drive until they could pay for all of it themselves and understand the seriousness of it all. gleanlife says to (2005-7-30 16:47:45): Whats the topic here? stevenzenith says to (2005-7-30 16:47:47): there ya go jheuristic says to (2005-7-30 16:47:48): Yes, it is called the prefontal lobe. Karen says to (2005-7-30 16:47:48): I say soldiers should not be allowed to serve until 25, either. LOL rkrato says to (2005-7-30 16:47:53): http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A52687-2005Jan31.html?sub=AR *** (2005-7-30 16:48:16):Welcome to BlogHer Conference Chat , dinamehta ! rkrato says to (2005-7-30 16:48:17): Sorry, way off topic, whatever the topic was. gleanlife says to Jeanne (2005-7-30 16:48:26): What is the topic? rkrato says to (2005-7-30 16:48:31): Hi Dina! Karen says to (2005-7-30 16:48:34): being parents stevenzenith says to (2005-7-30 16:48:35): so, is anyone actually in the conference? rkrato says to (2005-7-30 16:48:47): Mommy Blogging jheuristic says to (2005-7-30 16:48:55): Yeah, how many folks are there? gleanlife says to (2005-7-30 16:48:57): How about mommy blogging, and sex? Karen says to (2005-7-30 16:48:57): This is the virtual conference *** (2005-7-30 16:48:58):(Remember: Chat logs will be republished) rkrato says to (2005-7-30 16:49:2): At least I think that's what started the talk on raising kids laura says (2005-7-30 16:49:6): There are several topics, but mommy blogging is what's we've started with here Karen says to (2005-7-30 16:49:10): Dads too! rkrato says to (2005-7-30 16:49:18): mommy's with kids don't have sex gleanlife says to (2005-7-30 16:49:21): I'm going to be a dad.. {smile_smiley} laura says (2005-7-30 16:49:23): conference people pop in and out -- they are having wifi overload laura says (2005-7-30 16:49:25): lol rkrato says to (2005-7-30 16:49:28): neither do the dads {smile_smiley} laura says (2005-7-30 16:49:36): congratulations gleanlife! gleanlife says to (2005-7-30 16:49:53): Thanks.. Oliver will be is name.. rkrato says to (2005-7-30 16:49:53): Hey Dina, are you at the conference, or are you up really late, or early at home? jheuristic says to (2005-7-30 16:50:5): How many mommybloggers are there today? Jeanne says to (2005-7-30 16:50:26): what does blog stand for? jheuristic says to (2005-7-30 16:50:30): Seems like a growth area... stevenzenith says to (2005-7-30 16:50:32): web log rkrato says to (2005-7-30 16:50:38): I'm do double duty as mom and dad. gleanlife says to (2005-7-30 16:51:1): does sex, dissapear when kids enter the picture? Jeanne says to (2005-7-30 16:51:2): thank you jheuristic says to (2005-7-30 16:51:4): Weblog or blog. rkrato says to (2005-7-30 16:51:26): It doesn't disappear it gets very quiet jheuristic says to (2005-7-30 16:51:31): Web is most approriately capitalized. Weblog is on word, not two. laura says (2005-7-30 16:51:35): spanglemonkey: "The stigma of the name "mommy blogging." She's a mommy blogger, but she's a good writer... gak! Stigma of simply being a mom, in the first place." stevenzenith says to (2005-7-30 16:51:39): I wish it had :-) Karen says to (2005-7-30 16:51:39): Going back to the first topic - only laura and I are here from that earlier discusssion - framing something as mommy and therefore a women's issue misses fatherhood and does not couch it as parenting - yet the "woman's issue" aspect takes it off the table instead of seeing it as a parents' issue - even if it is a single family, same sex, or miltiple partners home. laura says (2005-7-30 16:51:50): "Mommy bloggers are the ones with the most profanity. No SHIT. We're the ones with the hardest jobs." laura says (2005-7-30 16:52:14): "Seems to me that a lot of it has to do with recent history of women, the last 50 years or so. How men's work is the serious work, and women's is not. So Women are now honorary men? Fuck that." laura says (2005-7-30 16:52:25): oh my we have a language filter! laura says (2005-7-30 16:52:35): sorry about that, folks! Karen says to (2005-7-30 16:52:44): I said *** and they filtered that rkrato says to (2005-7-30 16:52:50): As a double parent I wonder how that reflects on what I go through. Karen says to (2005-7-30 16:53:0): so if you said fuck, I', sure they filtered that, too Jeanne says to (2005-7-30 16:53:13): mmm Karen says to (2005-7-30 16:53:18): LOL rkrato says to (2005-7-30 16:53:20): Double Parent, one who has to fill the role of two parents jheuristic says to (2005-7-30 16:53:22): Just use it like a comma. *** (2005-7-30 16:53:35):jheuristic lost connection, left the room gleanlife says to (2005-7-30 16:53:40): fuck, shit, cock, pussy... all those are ok words? Karen says to (2005-7-30 16:53:41): sorry... Karen says to (2005-7-30 16:53:47): LOL stevenzenith says to (2005-7-30 16:54:23): has anyone discussed the statistics gleanlife says to (2005-7-30 16:54:32): of? Jeanne says to (2005-7-30 16:54:33): what stats? Karen says to (2005-7-30 16:54:35): which statistics? gleanlife says to (2005-7-30 16:54:40): cock, and pussy? Karen says to (2005-7-30 16:54:40): LOOL stevenzenith says to (2005-7-30 16:54:42): for sure on LJ the largest number of bloggers are female' stevenzenith says to (2005-7-30 16:55:1): the percentage of bloggers that are female Karen says to (2005-7-30 16:55:8): That's for parents -- LJ? laura says (2005-7-30 16:55:16): 18% male, which I believe is not quite an inversion of the normal ratio stevenzenith says to (2005-7-30 16:55:18): LiveJournal Jeanne says to (2005-7-30 16:55:29): Can you tell me what the more popular sources / homes of bloggers use. Karen says to (2005-7-30 16:55:31): oh... duh laura says (2005-7-30 16:56:0): sources? you mean like a blogroll? Jeanne says to (2005-7-30 16:56:10): I guess so. Blogroll? stevenzenith says to (2005-7-30 16:56:13): typepad, blogger, LJ, myspace, tribe Jeanne says to (2005-7-30 16:56:21): good gleanlife says to (2005-7-30 16:56:38): I would have to say, Laura is one of the better looking woman bloggers around.. stevenzenith says to (2005-7-30 16:56:41): to name a few stevenzenith says to (2005-7-30 16:56:44): there are others laura says (2005-7-30 16:56:47): many do their own, if you go with one of those other services, they can just go away and you have no say laura says (2005-7-30 16:56:55): and you cannot take your domain with you stevenzenith says to (2005-7-30 16:57:1): and software like wordpress and moveabletype laura says (2005-7-30 16:57:16): {flush_smiley} *** (2005-7-30 16:57:19):Blogher photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/blogher/ laura says (2005-7-30 16:57:36): thanks, gleanlife -- it's all photoshop laura says (2005-7-30 16:58:18): we use Drupal www.drupal.org laura says (2005-7-30 16:58:27): for nearly all sites we build laura says (2005-7-30 16:59:4): Mommy blogging: http://socalmom.typepad.com/travelblog/ *** (2005-7-30 16:59:10):Welcome to BlogHer Conference Chat , flipflop ! stevenzenith says to (2005-7-30 16:59:19): ok, the flickr pictures are kinda intimidating :-) Karen says to (2005-7-30 16:59:20): hi flipflop Karen says to (2005-7-30 16:59:30): how so? laura says (2005-7-30 16:59:31): Jenn: I think it’s funny that people think I’m less of a writer because I’m a mommy. You embrace it. It’s not a bad thing. stevenzenith says to (2005-7-30 16:59:42): I thought more men would be present laura says (2005-7-30 16:59:54): LOL laura says (2005-7-30 16:59:59): we're too scary Karen says to (2005-7-30 17:0:3): We're glad you're here! gleanlife says to (2005-7-30 17:0:13): Why don't any of the woman talk about sex. They cover almost everything else, but sex... It is important in relationships, and in life... Karen says to (2005-7-30 17:1:1): I suppose it is not how women talk to eqach other. *** (2005-7-30 17:1:12):flipflop lost connection, left the room gleanlife says to (2005-7-30 17:1:14): What do you mean/ stevenzenith says to (2005-7-30 17:1:35): if LiveJournal is anything to go by ... women are just the ssame as men rkrato says to (2005-7-30 17:1:41): there is a time and place laura says (2005-7-30 17:2:13): I can't speak for others, but to me sex talk is a bit more private, and not something for a professional-political blogging conference Karen says to (2005-7-30 17:2:15): I think men like to brag in the locker room. So my ex- tells me. Women don't start at that point. gleanlife says to (2005-7-30 17:2:17): Of course there's a time and place. But theres seems to be no discussion of sex, on these blogs... Karen says to (2005-7-30 17:2:37): That's a different conference, I think. rkrato says to (2005-7-30 17:2:38): go find different blogs laura says (2005-7-30 17:2:40): I don't say anything in the locker room. stevenzenith says to (2005-7-30 17:2:51): not true glean and I agree, this is not the time or the place stevenzenith says to (2005-7-30 17:3:1): IMHO laura says (2005-7-30 17:3:32): Some talk about it, and get political about it.Amanda on Pandagon for example gleanlife says to (2005-7-30 17:3:42): Is it because most of the woman, are not even having sex then? Karen says to (2005-7-30 17:4:11): Being a parent is difficult, I think gleanlife says to (2005-7-30 17:4:15): For example: When was the last time any of the woman on here, had a shag, or a good shag? gleanlife says to (2005-7-30 17:4:31): Being a parent is hard, to have sex, or talk about it? Karen says to (2005-7-30 17:4:41): We have to raise our children in a difficult world. laura says (2005-7-30 17:4:42): It seems like men like to brag about sex more than women. rkrato says to (2005-7-30 17:4:42): As I was saying it's really interesting rasing two teen aged daughters Jeanne says to (2005-7-30 17:5:0): Its a dick thing Karen says to (2005-7-30 17:5:10): I think the topic is how to raise children gleanlife says to (2005-7-30 17:5:15): Brag, not sure, but are more open about it. .But woman need sex just as much as we do, and think about it just as much as we do... laura says (2005-7-30 17:5:32): {rolleye_smiley} gleanlife says to (2005-7-30 17:5:37): The topic is "how to raise children">? *** (2005-7-30 17:5:39):Technorati tags on Blogher: http://technorati.com/tag/blogher stevenzenith says to (2005-7-30 17:5:41): dick who? :-) rkrato says to (2005-7-30 17:5:46): {shrug_smiley} Karen says to (2005-7-30 17:5:57): blogging about parenting. gleanlife says to (2005-7-30 17:5:58): So, tell me, how does one raise kids? rkrato says to (2005-7-30 17:6:7): very carefully *** (2005-7-30 17:6:11):Jeanne lost connection, left the room Karen says to (2005-7-30 17:6:24): {lol_smiley} stevenzenith says to (2005-7-30 17:6:27): very very carefully - and with some intelligence rkrato says to (2005-7-30 17:6:41): as much as you can gather gleanlife says to (2005-7-30 17:6:57): Of course, we all try to do our best. My best to some, would be to others not as good.. It's a loose loose situation, on trying to answer how.. Give them lots of love, oppertunities to be themselves, and learn from eachtother is my best path laura says (2005-7-30 17:7:11): Do you blog about it? stevenzenith says to (2005-7-30 17:7:14): I homeschool all mine gleanlife says to (2005-7-30 17:7:17): I don gleanlife says to (2005-7-30 17:7:21): I don't, no... stevenzenith says to (2005-7-30 17:7:25): that helps Karen says to (2005-7-30 17:7:32): Home school is tough gleanlife says to (2005-7-30 17:7:34): What helps? stevenzenith says to (2005-7-30 17:7:42): not if you do it right *** (2005-7-30 17:7:51):rkrato lost connection, left the room *** (2005-7-30 17:7:54):Welcome to BlogHer Conference Chat , rkrato ! stevenzenith says to (2005-7-30 17:8:3): easier than schooling IMHO gleanlife says to (2005-7-30 17:8:5): Keepoing them at home... Well, depending on who your kids are, and yourself.. I have found more ids loosing more at home then going to school... stevenzenith says to (2005-7-30 17:8:9): better for the kids too laura says (2005-7-30 17:8:9): Audience: I think mommy blogs and moms is a feminist issue. Because there's still no respect for moms. They say things like "she's a mommy but she's a good writer." Or "she's a stay at home mom but she's really smart." *** (2005-7-30 17:8:23):Julie Leung lost connection, left the room gleanlife says to (2005-7-30 17:8:35): Feminist issue... Crazy... Karen says to (2005-7-30 17:8:41): My one and ONLY concern is socializing in a group of school peers which ends up being so much like the rest of life stevenzenith says to (2005-7-30 17:8:43): where do people say that laura? gleanlife says to (2005-7-30 17:8:50): It is because feminist make it... stevenzenith says to (2005-7-30 17:9:0): no-one I know does - or would gleanlife says to (2005-7-30 17:9:9): Never met, or heard anyone with that idea, of Moms not getting respect... Just the oppisite actually.. stevenzenith says to (2005-7-30 17:9:45): if they exist - they belong to very conservative thinkers gleanlife says to (2005-7-30 17:9:57): The ones looking for respect, what is it they want... For example..? Karen says to (2005-7-30 17:10:19): The respect is not necessarily sincere my issue with that kind of "respect." gleanlife says to (2005-7-30 17:10:33): i wouldn't say conservative thinkers, I woudl rather say closed minded, or inept thinkers to themselves.. People who can't think beyound themselves... *** (2005-7-30 17:10:49):Welcome to BlogHer Conference Chat , onechick ! gleanlife says to (2005-7-30 17:11:5): Karen, do you have kids? gleanlife says to (2005-7-30 17:11:5): How many, ages, sex? laura says (2005-7-30 17:11:13): Jenny: So many people think that your choice to be a parent lowers your IQ. Jenn: If you're not in the work force, you're obviously lazy. Karen says to (2005-7-30 17:11:39): There is a different standard abouit how President George Bush raises his children than would Laura Bush if she had the same office. gleanlife says to (2005-7-30 17:12:2): What....? Karen says to (2005-7-30 17:13:4): The issue of a man being a father is never the same wight as a woman (who is in the same job) who is also a mother. stevenzenith says to (2005-7-30 17:13:27): where are these quotes coming from laura? Karen says to (2005-7-30 17:13:30): But the blog issue is parenting...yes? gleanlife says to (2005-7-30 17:13:33): I have no idea who the Bush twins are, they seem very well put togeher, but I don't think anyone here knows them, to say one way or another how Mr Bush, or Mrs Bush raises there kids... There not in jail, both going to very good collages, both seem to have friends... laura says (2005-7-30 17:13:40): http://socalmom.typepad.com/travelblog/ gleanlife says to (2005-7-30 17:13:58): Lets change the topic....All in favor say I *** (2005-7-30 17:14:0):Blogher Blogroll: http://www.bloglines.com/public/BlogHer *** (2005-7-30 17:14:2):Welcome to BlogHer Conference Chat , martin ! laura says (2005-7-30 17:14:11): Seems that college and out of jail is pretty basic for the ruling class rkrato says to (2005-7-30 17:14:17): I like music {whistle_smiley} Karen says to (2005-7-30 17:14:35): I am still thinking about video blogs Karen says to (2005-7-30 17:15:12): I am wondering at what point well go from text to audio to video and what that means to women laura says (2005-7-30 17:15:55): http://www.sacredwhore.org/mobwhorelog/archives/000288.html nothing up yet gleanlife says to (2005-7-30 17:16:12): I Why would it mean anything for woman, Vs. men...? Why even pose the question for woman / men, why not just say the question for all of us..? Karen says to (2005-7-30 17:16:30): Part of what makes blogs so leveling is we have no physical feedback, yet as the internet expands, will we lose something with that added level of feedback? stevenzenith says to (2005-7-30 17:16:42): ok, that's interesting ... I guess I lead a sheltered life 'cos the women in my life kick my butt! laura says (2005-7-30 17:16:43): Because this is the BlogHER chatroom, so we make the effort to ask the question. Is this a problem? gleanlife says to (2005-7-30 17:17:19): No problem, but seems strange to seperate woman and men.. And what it means to Woman, and not what it means to us all... laura says (2005-7-30 17:17:36): Anything that makes remote communication more intimate I think potentially helps women, who often are put off by physical and personal space intimidation in person Karen says to gleanlife (2005-7-30 17:17:47): Old ground...we covered that in the morning sessions laura says (2005-7-30 17:18:3): Transcripts are posted stevenzenith says to (2005-7-30 17:18:11): I think the overall effect is benefitial for many groups - not just women gleanlife says to (2005-7-30 17:18:15): Often are, do you have stats to back that up via only woman.. I can find just as many men with the same issues.. stevenzenith says to (2005-7-30 17:18:33): for example, african americans, the working-class .... etc.. laura says (2005-7-30 17:18:43): Do you have the stats? gleanlife says to (2005-7-30 17:18:55): Right, thats wat I'm saying, any issues here, regarding blogging, is about men and woman, noit just woman, and the effects of blogging on them.. laura says (2005-7-30 17:19:2): Again, why should it be us who has to do any proving to you? laura says (2005-7-30 17:19:21): This is a conference on women bloggers. gleanlife says to (2005-7-30 17:19:22): This room seems a little tight on the issues abouut only woman... Lets try to think outside of ourselves... Karen says to (2005-7-30 17:19:30): BlogHER is the conference, so it will tend to focus on that. gleanlife says to (2005-7-30 17:19:33): Not to me... Trust me, not to me... stevenzenith says to (2005-7-30 17:19:43): glean - the conference is BlogHER laura says (2005-7-30 17:19:45): http://www.blogher.org/2005/04/mission_what_is.html gleanlife says to (2005-7-30 17:19:46): Right, but why blogHER, and not blogEVERYONE? stevenzenith says to (2005-7-30 17:20:5): that's not the conference you are attending *** (2005-7-30 17:20:10):martin lost connection, left the room laura says (2005-7-30 17:20:11): Gleanlife, there is a bloggercon where you can go knock yourself out gleanlife says to (2005-7-30 17:20:22): Maybe we can do blogeveryone, men, woman, kids, gay, black, white, orange, green, yellow.. laura says (2005-7-30 17:20:49): Sure. And if you need a chatroom hosted for that event, let us know. {smile_smiley} Karen says to (2005-7-30 17:20:52): I'll attend when you organize it gleanlife says to (2005-7-30 17:20:55): Easy there killer, just talking, expressing opinions... gleanlife says to (2005-7-30 17:21:25): Got to run, Wife and i are sitting down for dinner..enjoy. *** (2005-7-30 17:21:27):gleanlife lost connection, left the room Karen says to (2005-7-30 17:21:42): Oh well...... stevenzenith says to (2005-7-30 17:21:46): guess who was making dinner at gleans house laura says (2005-7-30 17:21:50): LOL Karen says to (2005-7-30 17:21:55): LOL laura says (2005-7-30 17:22:6): While he's "goofing off" on the internet Karen says to stevenzenith (2005-7-30 17:22:12): {kiss_smiley} stevenzenith says to (2005-7-30 17:22:14): exactly laura says (2005-7-30 17:22:18): And wifey now gets to hear all about it! *** (2005-7-30 17:22:22):Live Bloghers! http://www.blogher.org/2005/07/track_blogher_l.html laura says (2005-7-30 17:23:5): As traffic has slowed down, I think I'll keep the transcript unbroken here, and let it run through the closing session. Karen says to stevenzenith (2005-7-30 17:23:5): We should have had him here for the session on Flame, Blame & Shame Karen says to stevenzenith (2005-7-30 17:23:25): Ya... Karen says to laura (2005-7-30 17:23:32): Ya Karen says to (2005-7-30 17:23:51): It's been a GREAT conference Karen says to (2005-7-30 17:24:54): This is usually how it goes. It peaks and then solks sort of chill out and everyone feels good. laura says (2005-7-30 17:25:27): That and the wifi overload Karen says to (2005-7-30 17:25:34): Sorry we did not get into parenting, but I sincerely believe that is a place where blogs can serve a strong role, laura says (2005-7-30 17:25:47): There are some interesting live blogs on it Karen says to (2005-7-30 17:26:10): That is, parents in blogs can show some vulnerability without losing face. rkrato says to (2005-7-30 17:26:10): Is he gone? Karen says to (2005-7-30 17:26:17): who? rkrato says to (2005-7-30 17:26:32): the troll gleansomething or other Karen says to (2005-7-30 17:26:32): "that manager guy?" rkrato says to (2005-7-30 17:26:49): the one who wanted more sex, or something laura says (2005-7-30 17:26:54): He left rkrato says to (2005-7-30 17:27:2): cool laura says (2005-7-30 17:27:12): Figures, the guy who compliments me is really just trolling for sex stevenzenith says to (2005-7-30 17:27:29): you got it Karen says to (2005-7-30 17:27:31): I think it is hard in this society for parents to speak to one another about concern and fears. rkrato says to (2005-7-30 17:27:51): oops, sorry I tuned out for a while, didn't know he turned complimentary Karen says to (2005-7-30 17:28:29): Well, Ilaura deflected it well with "oh it's just photoshop." Smart girl. *** (2005-7-30 17:28:40):Welcome to BlogHer Conference Chat , rht341 ! laura says (2005-7-30 17:28:42): it was auto-erotic foreplay only Karen says to (2005-7-30 17:29:50): But will video change things in blogging? laura says (2005-7-30 17:29:57): Time for the closing session: All the live-bloggers are supposedly covering this part. laura says (2005-7-30 17:30:2): Open discussion Karen says to (2005-7-30 17:30:27): ok.. what are we to do? stevenzenith says to (2005-7-30 17:30:41): I agree Karen, there is some very rigid thinking in society today and parents are sacred to talk to each other for fear they will be challenged rather than supported *** (2005-7-30 17:30:42):BlogHer chatroom transcripts: http://www.pingv.com/personal-blog-entry/laura/200507/blogher-chatroom-transcripts stevenzenith says to (2005-7-30 17:31:43): there is a lot of judgementalism *** (2005-7-30 17:31:44):snackish lost connection, left the room *** (2005-7-30 17:31:55):rht341 quit the room Karen says to (2005-7-30 17:31:56): Blogging gives the anonymity to be vulnerable\ laura says (2005-7-30 17:31:59): http://www.flickr.com/photos/ari/29783185/ laura says (2005-7-30 17:32:15): one day we will look back on that image and laugh Karen says to (2005-7-30 17:32:58): Society has gone nutso with government coming into how people raise children and so it i hard to say "I'm winging this." We're suppose to have all the answers. laura says (2005-7-30 17:33:0): 581 photos so far! *** (2005-7-30 17:33:32):Welcome to BlogHer Conference Chat , Regina Philangie ! Karen says to (2005-7-30 17:33:55): Yer in my parent's generation (World War Two) they were, despite the bravado, more open to saying they simply did not know. Blogs may be a way of getting past that. laura says (2005-7-30 17:34:22): Welcome REgina laura says (2005-7-30 17:34:32): are you at the conference? laura says (2005-7-30 17:34:53): rht? samantha? shelley? Karen says to (2005-7-30 17:34:57): We do the best we can and dammit, if the kid is ok, Remember the old saying, "success is eveyone's child and failure is an orhpan." laura says (2005-7-30 17:34:59): onechick? Regina Philangie says to (2005-7-30 17:35:2): no i'm at home. laura says (2005-7-30 17:35:12): welcome Regina Philangie says to (2005-7-30 17:35:18): thanks laura says (2005-7-30 17:35:33): it's been a long day, and traffic has been slowing Karen says to (2005-7-30 17:35:38): Kids are their own destinies Karen says to (2005-7-30 17:35:59): We do the best we can rkrato says to (2005-7-30 17:36:17): And it still isn't a good as we would like Karen says to (2005-7-30 17:36:47): In the end, the person is who they are and we should therefore neither take credit nor blame. That's mu two cents Yest we do sghare with others how WE can vbe better. rkrato says to (2005-7-30 17:36:49): raising kids reminds you every day that you will never be able to do as much for them as you would like to be able to. Karen says to (2005-7-30 17:37:16): he gone Karen says to (2005-7-30 17:37:58): But you are right rkrato says to (2005-7-30 17:38:22): in my case, she gone. *** (2005-7-30 17:39:3):(Remember: Chat logs will be republished) Karen says to (2005-7-30 17:39:21): I suppose they only have our example, not our scriptures. *** (2005-7-30 17:40:44):Welcome to BlogHer Conference Chat , katherine ! *** (2005-7-30 17:41:1):Welcome to BlogHer Conference Chat , Isabel ! katherine says to (2005-7-30 17:41:5): Did I miss anything? *** (2005-7-30 17:41:18):Isabel quit the room laura says (2005-7-30 17:41:22): No, nothing laura says (2005-7-30 17:41:28): {laugh_smiley} laura says (2005-7-30 17:41:33): but isabel did rkrato says to (2005-7-30 17:41:34): {typing_smiley} katherine says to (2005-7-30 17:41:35): {flower_smiley} katherine says to (2005-7-30 17:42:17): Many thanks to Laura who made this possible. You are super!!!!!!! laura says (2005-7-30 17:42:19): I think Beth has done a great job, very unique, to capture the flavor of the event: http://beth.typepad.com/beths_blog/ laura says (2005-7-30 17:42:28): Thanks katherine says to (2005-7-30 17:42:39): {heart_smiley} laura says (2005-7-30 17:42:43): So what's on people's minds? rkrato says to (2005-7-30 17:43:10): Dinner? katherine says to (2005-7-30 17:43:12): That we should start planning immediuately for next year laura says (2005-7-30 17:43:21): There were a lot of topics covered today. Anything stick in your craw? Or make you laugh? Or feel was missed? katherine says to (2005-7-30 17:43:26): oh, dinner... that, too! katherine says to (2005-7-30 17:43:45): This shouls be web cast in the future. laura says (2005-7-30 17:44:11): Maybe we can help make that happen next year Regina Philangie says to (2005-7-30 17:44:11): totally agree Regina Philangie says to (2005-7-30 17:44:33): what was an exciting session that you viewed? katherine says to (2005-7-30 17:44:39): I think that the sessions should be available to bloggers as they happen. Regina Philangie says to (2005-7-30 17:44:57): looking forward to the audiocasts katherine says to (2005-7-30 17:45:15): audiocast. Then webcast katherine says to (2005-7-30 17:45:26): Maybe all in the same year Regina Philangie says to (2005-7-30 17:45:27): did anyone listen to the naked truth one? katherine says to (2005-7-30 17:45:47): Bring the virtual world into the real one laura says (2005-7-30 17:46:9): podcasts will be up soon. we have transcripts of these chat sessions. *** (2005-7-30 17:46:15):Karen quit the room laura says (2005-7-30 17:46:37): The naked blogging and political blogging topics were the hottest, I think -- about 30-40 people on chatting away here katherine says to (2005-7-30 17:46:42): We are still feeling our way *** (2005-7-30 17:46:49):Welcome to BlogHer Conference Chat , kencamp ! laura says (2005-7-30 17:47:21): I feel like we covered everything, and I KNOW that's not possible kencamp says to (2005-7-30 17:47:24): /list *** (2005-7-30 17:47:24):Blogher photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/blogher/ laura says (2005-7-30 17:47:41): welcome kencamp kencamp says to (2005-7-30 17:47:49): thanks laura laura says (2005-7-30 17:48:10): So far nobody I've found is blogging the closing session. katherine says to (2005-7-30 17:48:11): This is history we are writing - you know that.. katherine says to (2005-7-30 17:48:34): I suspect they are going to the 19th Hole to do that laura says (2005-7-30 17:48:41): Transcript fodder for a Ph.D. thesis someone will research in 2061 *** (2005-7-30 17:49:10):kencamp quit the room *** (2005-7-30 17:49:21):Welcome to BlogHer Conference Chat , mb ! katherine says to (2005-7-30 17:49:21): True wnough. I look back to the 1970's and I am a living historian. And here I thought it was just gossip. katherine says to (2005-7-30 17:49:41): hello mb *** (2005-7-30 17:49:45):onechick lost connection, left the room mb says to (2005-7-30 17:49:46): hello katherine says to (2005-7-30 17:50:19): Closing comments *** (2005-7-30 17:50:30):Welcome to BlogHer Conference Chat , Michele ! laura says (2005-7-30 17:50:37): welcome welcome katherine says to (2005-7-30 17:50:45): I suppose that if we get into reading transcripts, we're not really engaged int he same way laura says (2005-7-30 17:50:54): we're still on, and the room will be up for a while. katherine says to (2005-7-30 17:50:59): Hello michele Michele says to (2005-7-30 17:51:11): Hi Katherine and everyone. laura says (2005-7-30 17:51:18): hi katherine says to (2005-7-30 17:51:19): Yes...open for some time more... Michele says to (2005-7-30 17:51:39): Hi Laura. katherine says to (2005-7-30 17:52:7): Very exciting katherine says to (2005-7-30 17:52:25): Great day Michele says to (2005-7-30 17:52:39): Yes! I posted the news of bloGher in my AOL Journal even though it is almost over. There are some really valuable links. *** (2005-7-30 17:53:5):Regina Philangie quit the room laura says (2005-7-30 17:53:12): THe event is almost over, but the mission continues Michele says to (2005-7-30 17:53:22): I also joined Bloglines to explore the syndication thing...I want to leave AOL blogging or maybe expand. katherine says to (2005-7-30 17:53:28): This conference is over, but it ilike a rocket taking off from Cape Kennedy, it is only the blast-off on a long journey stevenzenith says to (2005-7-30 17:53:33): Sorry, people - I did not have a lot of time today stevenzenith says to (2005-7-30 17:53:50): best wishes to everyone - and I'm glad the conference was a succcess Michele says to (2005-7-30 17:53:53): We are in a tiny niche there and I love the expansion today brought. Michele says to (2005-7-30 17:54:24): Thank you very much. I live here and am online all the time and didn't know about this event until I saw it on KRON newsite. katherine says to (2005-7-30 17:54:30): Same here stevenzenith says to (2005-7-30 17:54:32): my brief experience prompted a blog entry at Always On that I will publish shortly stevenzenith says to (2005-7-30 17:54:50): bye katherine says to (2005-7-30 17:54:54): bye laura says (2005-7-30 17:55:0): bye laura says (2005-7-30 17:55:5): thanks for stopping by stevenzenith says to (2005-7-30 17:55:16): np katherine says to (2005-7-30 17:55:20): men are parents too stevenzenith says to (2005-7-30 17:55:27): indeed we are laura says to Michele (2005-7-30 17:55:31): there was a lot of initial skepticism laura says to Michele (2005-7-30 17:55:39): so people didn't talk about it *** (2005-7-30 17:55:42):Welcome to BlogHer Conference Chat , Flippy ! Michele says to (2005-7-30 17:55:45): About the conference? *** (2005-7-30 17:55:45):Technorati tags on Blogher: http://technorati.com/tag/blogher laura says (2005-7-30 17:55:48): Hihi! laura says (2005-7-30 17:55:50): Right Michele says to (2005-7-30 17:56:6): I get it...because it was women centered! laura says (2005-7-30 17:56:16): But I think the people who pooh-pooh'd it have questioned their initial reactions laura says (2005-7-30 17:56:21): ...and a brand-new event laura says (2005-7-30 17:56:29): Hi Flippy -- what's news? Flippy says to (2005-7-30 17:56:48): Anyone know where the transcripts are hiding? katherine says to (2005-7-30 17:56:54): yes Michele says to (2005-7-30 17:57:2): I hope this is the start of something that will continue annually at least! I know lots of people who would like to join in virtually. laura says (2005-7-30 17:57:4): What is your blog, stevevn? Flippy says to (2005-7-30 17:57:10): I'll give you a dollar for the url. laura says (2005-7-30 17:57:29): http://www.pingv.com/personal-blog-entry/laura/200507/blogher-chatroom-transcripts katherine says to (2005-7-30 17:57:45): That'll be a dollar, please. laura says to Flippy (2005-7-30 17:57:52): we accept PayPal Flippy says to (2005-7-30 17:58:6): Give me a Paypal address. {smile_smiley} Michele says to (2005-7-30 17:58:7): Is that a beer, Flippy? Flippy says to (2005-7-30 17:58:12): Yeah, and I hate beer. laura says (2005-7-30 17:58:21): {bye_smiley} Michele says to (2005-7-30 17:58:33): There was some wine and champagne earlier. laura says to stevenzenith (2005-7-30 17:58:51): Do you have a URL for your blog? katherine says to (2005-7-30 17:59:2): yes Flippy says to (2005-7-30 17:59:15): So, no Paypal address? I keep my promises. ;) katherine says to (2005-7-30 17:59:33): hold Flippy says to (2005-7-30 17:59:41): So, before I came in, was the discussion about men and blogher? Michele says to (2005-7-30 17:59:46): I got the transcripts...how wonderful...Thanks. {smile_smiley} laura says (2005-7-30 18:0:12): URL was free {smile_smiley} Flippy says to (2005-7-30 18:0:18): Thanks, Laura. *** (2005-7-30 18:0:35):stevenzenith lost connection, left the room laura says (2005-7-30 18:1:12): Found Steven http://www.alwayson-network.com/index.php Flippy says to (2005-7-30 18:1:15): I was reading a trackback where people were kind of insulting about the idea of blogher. Flippy says to (2005-7-30 18:1:35): I figure, if they don't like it, they don't have to attend. Michele says to (2005-7-30 18:1:57): Women? Flippy says to (2005-7-30 18:2:8): Yeah, some women too. Flippy says to (2005-7-30 18:2:17): It was started by a guy though. katherine says to (2005-7-30 18:2:27): Many reasons people might end up thinking that laura says (2005-7-30 18:2:46): Can't please everybody Flippy says to (2005-7-30 18:2:53): Exactly. laura says (2005-7-30 18:3:17): And...we are not here to please skeptics katherine says to (2005-7-30 18:3:21): "Went to a Garden Party..." Michele says to (2005-7-30 18:3:24): A man and his groupies? Flippy says to (2005-7-30 18:3:47): What was sad was that there was a woman there who was going, only because she lived nearby. *** (2005-7-30 18:4:6):Blogher Blogroll: http://www.bloglines.com/public/BlogHer laura says (2005-7-30 18:4:9): I hope she was pleasantly surprised Michele says to (2005-7-30 18:4:39): I saw Steven's blog. Will revisit. Flippy says to (2005-7-30 18:4:45): Said she would have to take medication to suppress her gag reflex. But then, somewhere else was completely different about it and hoped she wouldn't drool on the famous bloggers. katherine says to (2005-7-30 18:4:48): Like the scene in Norma Rae when the last machine to shut off was the women who had the most to gain. katherine says to (2005-7-30 18:5:20): Profound moment in how oppression works Flippy says to (2005-7-30 18:5:39): First, it made me mad (because I couldn't go), then I felt sorry for her. Whichever is her real opinion, she didn't feel as though she could stick to it. Michele says to (2005-7-30 18:6:48): Some people don't have the social skills or ability to pick things up. Like virtual drinking. Yes there should be some famous names scattered about! Maybe just some virtual sightings! LOL! katherine says to (2005-7-30 18:7:43): Women come forward as girl friends of big name men... it's their power katherine says to (2005-7-30 18:8:5): Later they learn that it is not in their man but within themselves. katherine says to (2005-7-30 18:8:23): They say "it" to be okay. Flippy says to (2005-7-30 18:8:25): Interesting. And I know a woman who is married to a big name man, but uses her maiden name so the average person won't know. katherine says to (2005-7-30 18:8:57): A very 70's thing...as I happen to know Michele says to (2005-7-30 18:9:16): Good for her! Flippy says to (2005-7-30 18:9:40): She's a lawyer and doesn't want her husband's lookie-loos around. katherine says to (2005-7-30 18:9:43): How many women of my mother's era was MRS John Smith? *** (2005-7-30 18:9:49):Welcome to BlogHer Conference Chat , nancy ! laura says (2005-7-30 18:10:0): Hi nancy! katherine says to (2005-7-30 18:10:7): Hi nancy nancy says to (2005-7-30 18:10:20): whats going on? Michele says to (2005-7-30 18:10:21): We have Meg Whitman of eBay in the tech world. laura says (2005-7-30 18:10:33): From the closing session: What would be measurable success? If we had a BlogHer Conference again in a year what would cause us to pat ourselves on the back and say "job well done"? Flippy says to (2005-7-30 18:11:2): I'd guess the "sold out" sign would be enough, no? Michele says to (2005-7-30 18:11:9): Get the word out more. laura says (2005-7-30 18:11:17): get bigger, maybe 2 days katherine says to (2005-7-30 18:11:21): That we had ten times the participants and various satellite concefences throughout the world laura says (2005-7-30 18:11:34): a networked event worldwide! Flippy says to (2005-7-30 18:11:43): Two days would be good. Too many good sessions held at the same time. Michele says to (2005-7-30 18:12:4): Get a committee going now! katherine says to (2005-7-30 18:12:10): 300 o in SV and 30 cities with 300 and 300 virtual link sites. Yah! *** (2005-7-30 18:12:27):Live Bloghers! http://www.blogher.org/2005/07/track_blogher_l.html Flippy says to (2005-7-30 18:12:44): With the physical conference in Las Vegas, so I don't have to travel. {smile_smiley} katherine says to (2005-7-30 18:12:50): A pebble dropped into a pool whose ripples radiate out nancy says to (2005-7-30 18:12:57): I can't wait to read all the comments on the blogs in the next few days. laura says (2005-7-30 18:12:59): Spanglemonkey may have schmoozed up a possible book http://spanglemonkey.typepad.com/spanglemonkey/2005/07/things_that_are.html Flippy says to (2005-7-30 18:13:24): Cool. laura says (2005-7-30 18:13:35): Let's let Lisa, Elisa and everyone rest for a few weeks first! katherine says to (2005-7-30 18:13:40): Notice the PingV logo katherine says to (2005-7-30 18:14:26): It starts with a few and more and more get the word Flippy says to (2005-7-30 18:15:15): I'm sure as soon as everyone gets home, the word will spread quickly. Flippy says to (2005-7-30 18:15:30): Everyone is connected to someone who knows someone who knows someone... katherine says to (2005-7-30 18:15:53): The thing s that it must sustain.. not be pushed out by Tuesday morning. We need to stay in contact Michele says to (2005-7-30 18:16:17): I will email people as well as blogging. katherine says to (2005-7-30 18:16:21): And Blogs is how we do it.\ laura says (2005-7-30 18:16:43): we have the blogroll, too -- everyone who was involved the first year laura says (2005-7-30 18:17:9): but more important, all the new women who don't know about the event katherine says to (2005-7-30 18:17:45): But the power of an idea... that is what will spread.. that women are gatherine to spread the word mb says to (2005-7-30 18:18:20): what about those of us who couldn't be there? Michele says to (2005-7-30 18:18:20): CAn you do a followup with participants. That was it. ANd also remember it is a learning experience. Some may come because they chat but can't blog yet...what is it? Some may join because they are ...women. *** (2005-7-30 18:18:58):Welcome to BlogHer Conference Chat , doodle ! katherine says to (2005-7-30 18:19:7): I wasn't there, yet I feel as if I was. I am energized. *** (2005-7-30 18:19:12):Welcome to BlogHer Conference Chat , gimmegirlX ! Flippy says to (2005-7-30 18:19:13): Those of us who couldn't be there...we plan for next time. laura says (2005-7-30 18:19:19): Okay, what's coming: We have chat transcripts already. We have podcasts (mp3s) of the sessions, some are posted already by individuals, but IT Conversations will have professional recordings posted soon Michele says to (2005-7-30 18:19:24): Virtually it was a blast and I learned so much and networked! And I live here in Santa Clara County but enjoyed it from the Internet. {smile_smiley} *** (2005-7-30 18:19:35):gimmegirlX lost connection, left the room laura says (2005-7-30 18:19:37): And www.blogher.org will have all the latest news katherine says to (2005-7-30 18:19:56): And plan to help out others who will be in the virtual area next year. THAT's where the ripple edge is moving mb says to (2005-7-30 18:20:6): Thank goodness for the internet. I'm glad there wiill be transcripts, too; i had to miss a lot this afternoon. Michele says to (2005-7-30 18:20:19): Ripple edge...very good. Flippy says to (2005-7-30 18:20:24): Gotta go. I can't wait to read the transcripts. *** (2005-7-30 18:20:27):Flippy quit the room *** (2005-7-30 18:20:48):BlogHer chatroom transcripts: http://www.pingv.com/personal-blog-entry/laura/200507/blogher-chatroom-transcripts katherine says to (2005-7-30 18:20:49): open a second window laura says (2005-7-30 18:20:53): this is too infectious to just fade away katherine says to (2005-7-30 18:21:23): This is what it felt like in the 197o's when feminism ruled! laura says (2005-7-30 18:22:53): Elisa: When we came together, we had three goals. But we found out that what our attendees wanted was to talk about community. So that's what we planned the day for and want to know what you've learned, what's the first thing you're going to do when you get home, and what is something you would recommend to someone who is not here, but maybe is looking on the chat, the live blog sessions or the audioblogging? laura says (2005-7-30 18:23:35): Brendan: I thought it was really good and wanted to see how it would contrast with other conferences. And it did. And of course, as a man, I really don't know anything about women (LAUGHTER) Michele says to (2005-7-30 18:24:6): This was one of the best Internet days I've had for information exchanges and supportive community. Thanks again. I have to leave now. Bye. {bye_smiley} laura says (2005-7-30 18:24:11): Heather: This conference totaly blew me away. The big thing I took away is that I'm going to start video and audio blogging. I started blogging because Susan Mernit got me into it. But I realize I had some insecurity about mobile and video blogging and that's all gone now. laura says (2005-7-30 18:24:17): Bye michelle laura says (2005-7-30 18:24:23): Michele katherine says to (2005-7-30 18:24:24): {bye_smiley} *** (2005-7-30 18:24:25):Michele quit the room katherine says to (2005-7-30 18:24:56): Well.. it's been a good day, katherine says to (2005-7-30 18:25:36): I appreciate your work. You rock, laura! katherine says to (2005-7-30 18:26:35): {flower_smiley} laura says (2005-7-30 18:26:38): Audience: at the identity blogging session I realized that becoming vulnerable, being vulnerable out there, I am not alone. See that there are a lot of people in different context - I also enjoyed going to the Mommy Blogging session. I'm a corporate blogger, but I found that there are lots of similarities. laura says (2005-7-30 18:27:5): Barbara: I came here just knowing the word blog. I came away with tools that I can use to get started. I'd love a top 10 to do list and a top 10 don't list. I think both of these lists will be filled when I go through the notes I've taken. Thank you all for all you've shared today. laura says (2005-7-30 18:27:23): quite a range of people katherine says to (2005-7-30 18:27:52): Indeed... this is what Donna saw as did the nations founders. laura says (2005-7-30 18:27:52): These clips from Socal Mom, who I think has set the standard for live blogging in the future. http://socalmom.typepad.com/travelblog/ laura says (2005-7-30 18:28:31): I've had a wonderful time today, and I'm delighted at the conversations we've had here. *** (2005-7-30 18:28:38):Welcome to BlogHer Conference Chat , Mrs.R. ! laura says (2005-7-30 18:28:42): It makes vicarious attenance that much more enjoyable laura says (2005-7-30 18:28:47): Hi Mrs. R katherine says to (2005-7-30 18:29:5): The point of our mutual efforts - not vicarious, but virtual *** (2005-7-30 18:29:9):(Remember: Chat logs will be republished) laura says (2005-7-30 18:29:14): Yes laura says (2005-7-30 18:29:18): I stand corrected Mrs.R. says to (2005-7-30 18:29:21): Hello katherine says to (2005-7-30 18:29:30): Not corrected... supported. laura says (2005-7-30 18:29:35): Are you at the conference, Mrs. R? katherine says to (2005-7-30 18:29:39): Hello Mrs. R. Mrs.R. says to (2005-7-30 18:30:13): I'm in Nova Scotia, had hoped to join you all day but visitors kept me from it. Maybe next time! katherine says to (2005-7-30 18:30:30): The transcripts and all are availab;e laura says (2005-7-30 18:30:42): And lots of love blogging katherine says to (2005-7-30 18:30:42): You are here and you are welcome *** (2005-7-30 18:30:44):Welcome to BlogHer Conference Chat , laura67bike ! Mrs.R. says to (2005-7-30 18:30:57): Did anyone see Ronni Bennett's session? laura says (2005-7-30 18:31:0): http://technorati.com/tag/blogher laura says (2005-7-30 18:31:7): Which one was that? Mrs.R. says to (2005-7-30 18:31:23): It was the one about blogging your identity. katherine says to (2005-7-30 18:32:1): long discussion of that in these chats and elsewhere laura says (2005-7-30 18:32:22): And live blogs .. katherine says to (2005-7-30 18:32:22): hello laura67bike Mrs.R. says to (2005-7-30 18:32:25): very good, I'll take a look, thanks. laura says (2005-7-30 18:32:30): Hi Laura laura says (2005-7-30 18:33:18): Jenn: Other things I heard people say - there were lots of stereotypes broken today. There was a lot of interaction between say mommy bloggers and political bloggers, etc. katherine says to (2005-7-30 18:33:40): I am beginning to get the picure laura says (2005-7-30 18:34:16): Nina: Would like to say that I'm bringing fashion and blogging together, and no one in the fashion world seems to know what blogging is about. The last thing is that it's a really incredible feeling to be in a group of so many inspiring women in an industry where often I'm considered old. Nice to talk with people other than geek guys - and so many hot chicks who know how to code. (APPLAUSE) laura67bike says to (2005-7-30 18:34:47): рш laura67bike says to (2005-7-30 18:34:53): oops laura67bike says to (2005-7-30 18:34:57): hi Laura laura says (2005-7-30 18:35:12): Lots of pictures too http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/blogher/ *** (2005-7-30 18:35:43):Mrs.R. quit the room laura says (2005-7-30 18:36:32): What would you all like to see in BlogHer 2006? katherine says to (2005-7-30 18:37:4): Me? laura says (2005-7-30 18:37:13): Everyone *** (2005-7-30 18:37:30):Blogher photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/blogher/ mb says to (2005-7-30 18:37:57): more of the virtual access. What an awesome thing. katherine says to (2005-7-30 18:38:1): Web cast. People able to join in who are not there -- the essence of what it means to blog laura says (2005-7-30 18:38:58): Yes, we will work on that katherine says to (2005-7-30 18:39:51): Maybe panalists who also are "remote" laura67bike says to (2005-7-30 18:40:11): will there be a list of attendees and their blogs available on this site? katherine says to (2005-7-30 18:40:38): Greater participation, not for numbers ake, but because we'll be richer for it. laura says (2005-7-30 18:40:39): www.blogher.org is the definitive source -- we'll channel what we can here *** (2005-7-30 18:44:27):nancy lost connection, left the room *** (2005-7-30 18:44:34):Welcome to BlogHer Conference Chat , yvonne ! *** (2005-7-30 18:44:46):yvonne quit the room katherine says to (2005-7-30 18:44:57): hello yvonne laura says (2005-7-30 18:45:1): welcome laura says (2005-7-30 18:45:12): are people bouncing? *** (2005-7-30 18:45:51):Technorati tags on Blogher: http://technorati.com/tag/blogher *** (2005-7-30 18:46:0):Welcome to BlogHer Conference Chat , outtabodymommy ! laura says (2005-7-30 18:46:22): Spanglemonkey: Everyone summarizing. Very enjoyable. We're all in the big room. What women can bring to technology beyond tokenism. Challenge to find five blogs from people who don't look like you. laura says (2005-7-30 18:46:35): Hi outtabodymommy! outtabodymommy says to (2005-7-30 18:46:41): hi Laura *** (2005-7-30 18:47:2):Welcome to BlogHer Conference Chat , Jo Spanglemonkey ! laura says (2005-7-30 18:47:19): Skye: I would seriously challenge everyone in this room to go and find five blogs of people who don't look like you. Learn something about other people. laura says (2005-7-30 18:47:32): Were your ears burning? *** (2005-7-30 18:47:38):doodle quit the room *** (2005-7-30 18:47:47):Welcome to BlogHer Conference Chat , doodle ! outtabodymommy says to (2005-7-30 18:47:49): don't look like us? SHould be easy! {smile_smiley} Jo Spanglemonkey says to (2005-7-30 18:47:53): What! I thought I made some kind of mistake switching over from my blog! laura says (2005-7-30 18:48:0): LOL laura says (2005-7-30 18:48:6): So how was it??? *** (2005-7-30 18:48:7):doodle quit the room laura says (2005-7-30 18:48:13): We're virtual here Jo Spanglemonkey says to (2005-7-30 18:48:20): Oh totally great! laura says (2005-7-30 18:48:40): What would you like to see next year? Jo Spanglemonkey says to (2005-7-30 18:48:44): Everyone ready to weep and hug. outtabodymommy says to (2005-7-30 18:48:58): is this chat only up while the conference is on? laura says (2005-7-30 18:49:23): We can leave it up for about a month Jo Spanglemonkey says to (2005-7-30 18:49:26): Somehow I'd like to be able to see someone's blog while meeting them. This is impossible of course, unless we have some kind of screens virtually above all our heads. Or possibly t-shirts with our front pages on *** (2005-7-30 18:49:29):Welcome to BlogHer Conference Chat , drowninginkids ! laura says (2005-7-30 18:49:33): Unsupervised of course laura says (2005-7-30 18:49:49): What about screenshots on the nametags? Jo Spanglemonkey says to (2005-7-30 18:49:55): Yes! Jo Spanglemonkey says to (2005-7-30 18:50:6): Onward to beer! outtabodymommy says to (2005-7-30 18:50:11): woo-hoo! Unsupervised always sounds like martini's to me laura says (2005-7-30 18:50:24): Vodka or gin? outtabodymommy says to (2005-7-30 18:50:29): okay laura says (2005-7-30 18:50:50): I am very impressed by the live bloggers outtabodymommy says to (2005-7-30 18:50:50): or should I say, Okay! *** (2005-7-30 18:50:56):Jo Spanglemonkey lost connection, left the room laura says (2005-7-30 18:51:22): We're not serving booze, alas mb says to (2005-7-30 18:51:29): alas. {laugh_smiley} mb says to (2005-7-30 18:51:47): i like the breadth of topics, too. and i bet there's a ton more to be uncovered. laura says (2005-7-30 18:52:3): This could be a week-long, worldwide conference mb says to (2005-7-30 18:52:18): it so could! *** (2005-7-30 18:54:11):Blogher Blogroll: http://www.bloglines.com/public/BlogHer *** (2005-7-30 18:54:58):laura67bike lost connection, left the room laura says (2005-7-30 18:55:9): Purvi: Thanks to Lisa Stone for coming up with the idea. (STANDING OVATION) Lisa: I wouldn't have done it if Elisa hadn't agreed to do it with me, (MORE APPLAUSE) laura says (2005-7-30 18:57:0): What a day! katherine says to laura (2005-7-30 18:58:8): One of the best conferences, ever.. outtabodymommy says to (2005-7-30 18:58:10): Laura, are you at the conference? laura says (2005-7-30 18:58:29): No, alas katherine says to laura (2005-7-30 18:58:36): Thank you laura for your hard work! *** (2005-7-30 18:58:39):Welcome to BlogHer Conference Chat , TW ! laura says (2005-7-30 18:58:43): Doing the next best thing laura says (2005-7-30 18:58:45): Alice: As marginalized as women bloggers might feel they might be, mommy bloggers might feel even more marginalized. I noticed a lot of comments about "just mommy bloggers." And I learned that mommy blogging can be a radical act; can change lives. outtabodymommy says to (2005-7-30 18:58:52): which blogger would all of you most like to meet? TW says to (2005-7-30 18:59:28): Nancy White mb says to (2005-7-30 18:59:30): must we only pick one? laura says (2005-7-30 18:59:42): Liza: This is an actual technical request. I am posting the to do list at BlogSheroes.com. I would like you to fill out your email address, names, blog and bio so that we can have this information so that when BlogHer.org sets up a new community site, I can dump this into the database there. I would also like to put in a field in the personal bio page for each member of the site so you can put in if you are available for conferences and what topics you are expert in. outtabodymommy says to (2005-7-30 18:59:44): no, how many do you have mb? *** (2005-7-30 19:0:20):outtabodymommy lost connection, left the room *** (2005-7-30 19:1:6):Welcome to BlogHer Conference Chat , outtabodymommy ! mb says to (2005-7-30 19:1:23): i'd like to meet all the mommyblogging heroines. outtabodymommy says to (2005-7-30 19:1:38): who are the mommyblog heroines? mb says to (2005-7-30 19:1:40): so, like, 27. {smile_smiley} *** (2005-7-30 19:1:55):Welcome to BlogHer Conference Chat , Rosalea ! laura says (2005-7-30 19:2:27): on mommy blogging: http://socalmom.typepad.com/travelblog/2005/07/mommy_blogging.html *** (2005-7-30 19:2:32):Live Bloghers! http://www.blogher.org/2005/07/track_blogher_l.html mb says to (2005-7-30 19:2:49): dooce, fussy, finslippy, jenandtonic ... gosh. and the great ones i seem to have forgotten. mb says to (2005-7-30 19:3:38): those of you who were there: were you able to move into using real names instead of blognames? whenever i have a meetup in the blogging world, i can never remember people's real names. outtabodymommy says to (2005-7-30 19:3:44): I also read Dooce and Finslippy--good blogs. laura says (2005-7-30 19:4:2): there was a whole session on that question laura says (2005-7-30 19:4:8): "Getting Naked" outtabodymommy says to (2005-7-30 19:4:8): suburbanbliss is also one of my favorite mb says to (2005-7-30 19:4:16): the identity one -- ah. TW says to (2005-7-30 19:4:34): That happens to me too. I never seem to match real names to member names *** (2005-7-30 19:4:41):Welcome to BlogHer Conference Chat , SirBaldilocksOfTheGlen ! TW says to (2005-7-30 19:4:41): (or blog names) *** (2005-7-30 19:4:56):Welcome to BlogHer Conference Chat , Denise ! outtabodymommy says to (2005-7-30 19:5:6): hello SIrbadlocks and Denise SirBaldilocksOfTheGlen says to (2005-7-30 19:5:13): Anyone seen Donna (Socal Mom) ? katherine says to (2005-7-30 19:5:54): Like movie stars, who can remember their "real" names? laura says (2005-7-30 19:5:55): She hasn't been in the chatroom, I don't think laura says (2005-7-30 19:6:0): too busy live blogging SirBaldilocksOfTheGlen says to (2005-7-30 19:6:17): I noticed. He blog posts are loooooong. mb says to TW (2005-7-30 19:6:46): but really detailed! mb says to TW (2005-7-30 19:6:59): to Sir, i meant. *** (2005-7-30 19:7:8):outtabodymommy lost connection, left the room TW says to mb (2005-7-30 19:7:39): Pretty chat room SirBaldilocksOfTheGlen says to (2005-7-30 19:7:43): You got that right. Oh well, I shall call her. *** (2005-7-30 19:8:41):Rosalea quit the room TW says to mb (2005-7-30 19:9:37): It is interesting to see what the Blogher pictures are in contrast to gnomedex TW says to mb (2005-7-30 19:10:18): Margarita machine in contrast to buffet TW says to mb (2005-7-30 19:10:43): backs of heads in contrast to pictures of women/reactions *** (2005-7-30 19:10:53):BlogHer chatroom transcripts: http://www.pingv.com/personal-blog-entry/laura/200507/blogher-chatroom-transcripts Denise says to (2005-7-30 19:11:4): I was amused by the shoes and the necklace shots TW says to (2005-7-30 19:11:9): me too Denise says to (2005-7-30 19:11:24): don't find those at gnomedex or any other male dominated conference TW says to (2005-7-30 19:11:24): Wish I was there to have my necklace shot TW says to (2005-7-30 19:11:30): lol, nope TW says to (2005-7-30 19:11:37): you get pictures of their blogger bag TW says to (2005-7-30 19:11:50): ah ha, I did figure out the says to thing. Denise says to (2005-7-30 19:12:5): lol you're such a chatter TW says to (2005-7-30 19:12:6): Always interesting to figure out new chat set ups TW says to (2005-7-30 19:12:11): right mb says to (2005-7-30 19:12:23): [took me a minute, too, TW] laura says (2005-7-30 19:12:54): Are any of you bloggers? TW says to (2005-7-30 19:13:3): I blog. Well starting to. mb says to (2005-7-30 19:13:7): i am. laura says (2005-7-30 19:13:18): It's an overused word mb says to (2005-7-30 19:13:26): rounding into my third year. laura says (2005-7-30 19:13:42): But a powerful phenomenon personally, socially, politically, commercially, culturally.... TW says to (2005-7-30 19:13:44): I was a message board person for years...then life changed and I have been working up to commit to blogging for a while laura says (2005-7-30 19:14:9): The nice thing about blogging is that it's personal. No timetable laura says (2005-7-30 19:14:15): Post as much or as little as you want mb says to (2005-7-30 19:14:16): can't say enough good things about it. I try to convert everybody. TW says to (2005-7-30 19:14:22): Definitely *** (2005-7-30 19:14:26):Welcome to BlogHer Conference Chat , MeemerO ! laura says (2005-7-30 19:14:27): Link whore here drowninginkids says to (2005-7-30 19:14:40): I am a blogger and am keenly awaiting the information on how to drive traffic. I find it really difficult to get that started and break into the cliques. laura says (2005-7-30 19:14:50): Hello Meemer0 MeemerO says to (2005-7-30 19:14:56): Hi MeemerO says to (2005-7-30 19:15:7): how is everyone on this fine day? Denise says to (2005-7-30 19:15:12): drowning, how many kids do you have? MeemerO says to (2005-7-30 19:15:21): umm. none. SirBaldilocksOfTheGlen says to (2005-7-30 19:15:31): one MeemerO says to (2005-7-30 19:15:32): well one, if you count me. Denise says to (2005-7-30 19:15:33): or, are you a teacher drowning in kids? laura says (2005-7-30 19:15:34): Just been wrapping up a day of wonderful chatting as part of a wonderful conference SirBaldilocksOfTheGlen says to (2005-7-30 19:15:39): she's a treasure/ drowninginkids says to (2005-7-30 19:15:56): I have four kids and live on Vancouver island - Canadian eh? Denise says to (2005-7-30 19:16:14): Ha, I have 6 TW says to (2005-7-30 19:16:19): I sort of backed into it. I am a incurable websurfer, ran across tickle and thought hey, instead of instant messaging links that people may not have time to read...I will tickle them...well that fizzled but before it did I found bloglines, then a zillion feeds and now spurl constantly Denise says to (2005-7-30 19:16:20): and 3 of ours just got back from Vancouver SirBaldilocksOfTheGlen says to (2005-7-30 19:16:20): We were in Victoria 3 weeks ago. Beautiful. Denise says to (2005-7-30 19:16:24): lol Denise says to (2005-7-30 19:16:28): I love Victoria drowninginkids says to (2005-7-30 19:16:49): Yes, it's beautiful here! MeemerO says to laura (private) (2005-7-30 19:16:52): I was there as well. I had to leave early though. drowninginkids says to (2005-7-30 19:17:6): Six kids - hats off {flower_smiley} TW says to (2005-7-30 19:17:9): The feeds reminded me of what I love about internet community...so then blogging is following Denise says to (2005-7-30 19:17:12): this is funny Denise says to (2005-7-30 19:17:16): you blogged about envy Denise says to (2005-7-30 19:17:21): and I blogged about jealousy TW says to (2005-7-30 19:17:36): maybe I should blog about sloth mb says to (2005-7-30 19:17:42): ha drowninginkids says to (2005-7-30 19:17:42): Wow, you read? What's your blog? Denise says to (2005-7-30 19:17:44): lolol Denise says to (2005-7-30 19:17:48): I just went and found yours TW says to (2005-7-30 19:17:48): then we can work towards the rest of the deadly sins Denise says to (2005-7-30 19:17:58): I'm a blogspotter too - dailydoseofdlt laura says (2005-7-30 19:17:58): Okay, everyone .. URLs, give! mb says to (2005-7-30 19:18:8): second that! drowninginkids says to (2005-7-30 19:18:23): http://drowninginkids.blogspot.com TW says to (2005-7-30 19:18:25): http://ramblewoman.blogspot.com/ is the current run MeemerO says to laura (2005-7-30 19:18:33): umm. I just started my blog this week, I am a bit embarrassed. mb says to (2005-7-30 19:18:51): http://www.supamb.com/supafine Denise says to (2005-7-30 19:18:53): don't be embarrassed laura says (2005-7-30 19:18:55): Then you need traffic! TW says to (2005-7-30 19:19:1): (I have grown out of a bloglines no comment gig and I had a reger book weblog thing but they were frustrated Denise says to (2005-7-30 19:19:2): http://dailydoseofdlt.blogspot.com laura says (2005-7-30 19:19:4): Don't be embarrassed MeemerO says to laura (2005-7-30 19:19:11): ha. Yes, that is true *** (2005-7-30 19:19:14):(Remember: Chat logs will be republished) *** (2005-7-30 19:19:19):Welcome to BlogHer Conference Chat , veg4me ! TW says to (2005-7-30 19:19:21): they were frustrating because of glitches and stuff Denise says to (2005-7-30 19:19:22): duckfaced is adorable TW says to (2005-7-30 19:19:27): Don't be Meemer TW says to (2005-7-30 19:19:45): Mine is ummm less than a week old *** (2005-7-30 19:19:47):SirBaldilocksOfTheGlen lost connection, left the room mb says to (2005-7-30 19:19:54): aw, thanks. {smile_smiley} MeemerO says to laura (2005-7-30 19:19:59): ahh, how do i stop the private option? TW says to (2005-7-30 19:20:26): put the thing on all users...the highl;ight laura says (2005-7-30 19:20:36): click on "all users" laura says (2005-7-30 19:20:55): who else? URLs? drowninginkids says to (2005-7-30 19:21:6): I have to say this is great! TW says to (2005-7-30 19:21:42): be greater if we were THERE drowninginkids says to (2005-7-30 19:21:49): But, I am feeding my kids at the same time. How do you drive traffic? laura says (2005-7-30 19:21:59): Shelley has gone quiet, but she's famous: http://weblog.burningbird.net/ mb says to TW (2005-7-30 19:21:59): but this is still pretty terrific drowninginkids says to (2005-7-30 19:22:9): What was said today? Denise says to (2005-7-30 19:22:11): Ha, have her already Denise says to (2005-7-30 19:22:14): she's very famous Denise says to (2005-7-30 19:22:22): I got scoble to comment on my blog, now I need shelly TW says to mb (2005-7-30 19:22:26): yes it is pretty terrific laura says to drowninginkids (2005-7-30 19:22:26): You must be kidding Denise says to (2005-7-30 19:22:30): I will have to find something to interest her lol MeemerO says to (2005-7-30 19:22:40): woo hoo. Thanks. Ok here I go... mb says to (2005-7-30 19:22:57): drumrolll TW says to (2005-7-30 19:23:26): I imagine driving traffic to blogs is much like to message boards, be yourself, comment intelligently on other blogs, be consistent drowninginkids says to (2005-7-30 19:24:3): Yes, you're right. drowninginkids says to (2005-7-30 19:24:10): I think time too. drowninginkids says to (2005-7-30 19:24:27): Also, a great looking blog. laura says to MeemerO (2005-7-30 19:24:29): ...? TW says to (2005-7-30 19:24:49): Time can stretch on while you wait but keep at it Denise says to (2005-7-30 19:24:56): Personally, I say find some blog topics others have posted about, and link to their blog entry and blog your own thoughts - trackbacks are a good thing mb says to (2005-7-30 19:25:15): the time gets me. If you can't afford the time to be consistent, in posting and commenting, the traffic falls off. *** (2005-7-30 19:25:32):Welcome to BlogHer Conference Chat , Jeanne ! TW says to (2005-7-30 19:25:40): I think that is why I ended up with blogger...the dopey blog this button for my tool bar MeemerO says to (2005-7-30 19:25:42): http://thebeginnersblog.blogspot.com/ Im still working on the title/content/wholeshabang laura says (2005-7-30 19:25:47): trackbacks can get spammy, so have a good spam module or keep them moderated drowninginkids says to (2005-7-30 19:25:54): How does a TrackBack work. If I type in a link in a post does it Trackback automatically Denise says to (2005-7-30 19:26:9): I like your photos a lot MeemerO says to (2005-7-30 19:26:24): thanks {smile_smiley} laura says to MeemerO (2005-7-30 19:26:27): That looks great! No embarrassment is allowed, sorry! TW says to mb (2005-7-30 19:26:29): That just the same as with message boards. Consistent wins over regulars, regulars drag traffic in their wake *** (2005-7-30 19:26:38):Welcome to BlogHer Conference Chat , DougKaye ! mb says to (2005-7-30 19:27:3): usually. i think you may need to have auto-disovery enabled ... but that's Movable Type. laura says (2005-7-30 19:27:11): Trackback is a special protocol using a back-channel URI -- my site pings your site, and it shows up on your blog as a comment or trackback TW says to (2005-7-30 19:27:16): I don't even think it has to be an earthshattering entry every time... MeemerO says to (2005-7-30 19:27:27): I appreciate all help, as long is it aint flamin' (ahh lunch, what good times) *** (2005-7-30 19:27:35):Blogher photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/blogher/ DougKaye says to (2005-7-30 19:27:47): When does BlogHer start? Did I miss anything yet? (Just kidding.) katherine says to (2005-7-30 19:28:1): {lol_smiley} laura says (2005-7-30 19:28:8): BRB TW says to (2005-7-30 19:28:24): I am more likely to keep a blog on my feeds if it is short stuff regularly than one long sorry I haven't blogged in weeks entry Denise says to (2005-7-30 19:28:27): hahaha naked pictures Denise says to (2005-7-30 19:28:33): hahaha Why am I not at blogher? TW says to (2005-7-30 19:28:51): Because we are nearly out of those special cones for using urinals Denise says to (2005-7-30 19:28:52): I think maybe Nancy is not the one I want to meet, it is Badger instead TW says to (2005-7-30 19:29:39): urimates drowninginkids says to (2005-7-30 19:29:40): Interesting - thanks. drowninginkids says to (2005-7-30 19:29:52): What are we supposed to be talking about? katherine says to (2005-7-30 19:30:5): wrap up TW says to (2005-7-30 19:30:29): the next one isn't really in Portugal is it? katherine says to (2005-7-30 19:30:37): where to next year, what was good, what could be iproved *** (2005-7-30 19:30:53):DougKaye quit the room MeemerO says to (2005-7-30 19:30:53): is the wrap up still in session? Jeanne says to (2005-7-30 19:30:55): I so do want to learn about blogging but being out of the tech world, a lot of us are at a loss. Tell us how to do things! *** (2005-7-30 19:31:4):veg4me quit the room katherine says to (2005-7-30 19:31:6): Just ending TW says to (2005-7-30 19:31:10): Good was the blogs, the liveblogging, chat. MeemerO says to (2005-7-30 19:31:20): is everyone handing out high fives? katherine says to (2005-7-30 19:31:30): {flower_smiley} drowninginkids says to (2005-7-30 19:31:38): More photos! With URL's attached. Jeanne says to (2005-7-30 19:32:3): {kiss_smiley} TW says to (2005-7-30 19:32:10): yep, I also would like the photos to have more info, who is that, where, etc katherine says to (2005-7-30 19:32:13): As always, these things energize us, but then the next year's conference must be planned and all the super new things, too Denise says to (2005-7-30 19:32:20): ugh no more urls, lol. subsribing to the entire blogroll was too much lol. I think I read 800 blogher only entries today ;-) TW says to (2005-7-30 19:32:31): lol Jeanne says to (2005-7-30 19:32:42): good bye to all. TW says to (2005-7-30 19:32:51): bye! *** (2005-7-30 19:33:3):Jeanne lost connection, left the room TW says to (2005-7-30 19:33:41): I think it is a steep learning curve though *** (2005-7-30 19:33:42):Welcome to BlogHer Conference Chat , Blogeois ! katherine says to (2005-7-30 19:33:45): bye drowninginkids says to (2005-7-30 19:33:49): Bye! I'll see you all in bloggy land! *** (2005-7-30 19:33:53):drowninginkids quit the room TW says to (2005-7-30 19:33:56): trackbacks pings tagging...that insider language laura says (2005-7-30 19:34:13): Not to worry, next year IS going to happen TW says to (2005-7-30 19:34:15): that separates the in the know from the newbie *** (2005-7-30 19:34:23):Welcome to BlogHer Conference Chat , MintCookie ! MeemerO says to (2005-7-30 19:34:36): thanks everyone, keep on blogging. mb says to (2005-7-30 19:34:40): but the in the know are often more than willing to lend a hand to the newbies. laura says (2005-7-30 19:34:42): a great site for info katherine says to (2005-7-30 19:34:47): {smile_smiley} laura says (2005-7-30 19:34:49): www.wikipedia.org laura says (2005-7-30 19:34:58): look up all that jargon, and anything else TW says to (2005-7-30 19:34:59): lol I can drown in wikis TW says to (2005-7-30 19:35:20): yep, that is what I have done but it still can be daunting for a lot of folks TW says to (2005-7-30 19:35:36): especially when you are say a woman with a baby on her lap *** (2005-7-30 19:35:42):MeemerO quit the room TW says to (2005-7-30 19:35:45): or stealing 5 minutes at lunch Blogeois says to (2005-7-30 19:35:48): Or a woman having a hot flash TW says to (2005-7-30 19:35:52): lol that too *** (2005-7-30 19:35:56):Technorati tags on Blogher: http://technorati.com/tag/blogher TW says to (2005-7-30 19:36:21): I remember a lot of early online days where I was breastfeeding, typing and trying not to look dumb. TW says to (2005-7-30 19:36:49): Of course that was breastfeeding a child who is errr...old now MintCookie says to (2005-7-30 19:36:53): Yes I think we all remember the early days.. katherine says to (2005-7-30 19:37:20): old as in "out of fashion?" TW says to (2005-7-30 19:37:21): Of course learning something new is always rather fun laura says (2005-7-30 19:37:41): it's how we stay young mb says to MintCookie (2005-7-30 19:37:43): something about having taught myself all that jargon and the technical aspects, though -- what an ego boost. TW says to (2005-7-30 19:37:49): old as in uh carrying her own menstruation products TW says to (2005-7-30 19:38:1): in her backpack MintCookie says to (2005-7-30 19:38:12): I agree I taught myself a lot, it helps that my guy is a computer geek TW says to (2005-7-30 19:38:34): Yep, it is an ego boost. I switched jobs a couple years back and everyone at my new job thinks I am a techie MintCookie says to (2005-7-30 19:38:47): I always know CSS help is just a chair away. mb says to TW (2005-7-30 19:39:1): ha! i'm the dorkiest Mac geek in my newsroom. TW says to (2005-7-30 19:39:4): and they get that glazed over look when I try to explain how feeds could change their life mb says to TW (2005-7-30 19:39:17): i know that look. MintCookie says to (2005-7-30 19:39:22): I hate to tell people I know anything about computers, they all want me to make their web pages, with flash mind you....for free. Blogeois says to (2005-7-30 19:39:23): having a computer geek is great! Mine is too, but sometimes, they don't want to go where you want to go, web design-wise. TW says to MintCookie (2005-7-30 19:39:38): hmmm I think I should go after your guy mint. CSS is driving me mad lately laura says (2005-7-30 19:40:5): i love the guys who proudly say "I don't do email!" or "I can't even turn on a computer!" As if that were a mark of nobility. MintCookie says to (2005-7-30 19:40:13): He's a great guy. TW says to (2005-7-30 19:40:26): LOLOL Mint, my almost 7 yo had me help her with her first web page not long ago and she wants me to make a flash game for it MintCookie says to (2005-7-30 19:40:36): LOL, my 7 year old got asked for his email not too long ago. Blogeois says to (2005-7-30 19:40:46): so young TW says to (2005-7-30 19:40:50): based on the fact that she knows mommy took a 3 hour intro to flash class MintCookie says to (2005-7-30 19:40:56): we should hook up our 7 year olds! LOL katherine says to (2005-7-30 19:41:7): at 7 I was aksed for my phone number. Same doifference TW says to (2005-7-30 19:41:13): lol mint...mine is picky and she has a thing for rats MintCookie says to (2005-7-30 19:41:43): Yeah, it's just scary when my son can help my mother get on line, and work the application better than she can. TW says to (2005-7-30 19:42:8): My younger kids seem to think only corporations have websites... MintCookie says to (2005-7-30 19:42:23): rats! Mine wants to work for the NSA and be a spy. I'm sure he's a geek in the making. laura says (2005-7-30 19:42:29): ah, but do they realize blogs are websites, too? TW says to (2005-7-30 19:42:31): they always want to go to all these places they see commercials for TW says to (2005-7-30 19:43:5): My kids I think are clueless blogs exist. The little ones. The big ones have myspace, livejournal etc MintCookie says to (2005-7-30 19:43:7): Oh I know, Nick. Com can get that child to the computer "speedy quick" to look up a code or something to that effect. TW says to (2005-7-30 19:43:16): no kidding on the Nick thing katherine says to (2005-7-30 19:43:27): So now we know what poeple were like who yelled "get a horse" with those who had cars. Denise says to (2005-7-30 19:43:31): neopetssssssssssssssss TW says to (2005-7-30 19:43:33): I was reminded how clueless my children were last night. Denise says to (2005-7-30 19:43:36): (did I feed my pet today?) Blogeois says to dinamehta (2005-7-30 19:43:53): LOL..katherine TW says to (2005-7-30 19:43:59): We were in the car last night my 7 yo said she knew why Mcdonalds liked Neopets TW says to (2005-7-30 19:44:16): hmm, why I said...expecting some jewel *** (2005-7-30 19:44:17):Blogher Blogroll: http://www.bloglines.com/public/BlogHer katherine says to (2005-7-30 19:44:19): We really are on the forefront, irrespective of our biolgical age MintCookie says to (2005-7-30 19:44:19): My son knows of my blog because he read the page when it was open once. He's asked me not to share his personal stories unless I ask. TW says to (2005-7-30 19:44:25): I got the jewel but not the one I expected MintCookie says to (2005-7-30 19:44:26): My son is VERY aware. katherine says to (2005-7-30 19:45:1): There always will be progressives and Luddites. TW says to (2005-7-30 19:45:2): "Because there is a McDonalds in Neopia, so McDonalds thought that was really cool so decided to put the neopets in happy meals MintCookie says to (2005-7-30 19:45:8): Neopets, ? McDonalds see I'm a little out of this one. I've seen the neopets, but that's about it. MintCookie says to (2005-7-30 19:45:31): ah advertising in children's games? TW says to (2005-7-30 19:45:38): I think my kids have had Mommy online for so long they just don't think about it MintCookie says to (2005-7-30 19:45:42): sneeky little boogers. katherine says to (2005-7-30 19:45:53): Advertising in children's shows when we grew up MintCookie says to (2005-7-30 19:45:58): my son as well. TW says to (2005-7-30 19:46:14): yes, Neopets has amazing sneaky childrens advertising. I adore it but at the same time I feel like a broken record explaining it katherine says to (2005-7-30 19:46:47): "Little Orhpan Annie wants you to drink your Ovaltine" Blogeois says to (2005-7-30 19:46:59): Ah... TW says to (2005-7-30 19:47:1): I had a birthday party for my partner a couple years back, invited some people we had met online...my children didn't think it was at all odd that these people knew ALL about them TW says to (2005-7-30 19:47:57): Seems no different to them than the neighbor across the street knowing something TW says to (2005-7-30 19:48:12): they don't think about the vehicle it occurs in MintCookie says to (2005-7-30 19:48:15): I have some friends from online who send him gifts on holidays and birthdays and I do the same for their children. But it's kind of hard to explain to them this is mommy's friend and they've never seen them in person. TW says to (2005-7-30 19:48:44): aye katherine says to (2005-7-30 19:48:45): As we said earlier, 80-percent of Americans do not know what a blog even is MintCookie says to (2005-7-30 19:48:45): Just a voice on the phone that calls, not someone I have lunch with or see a movie with. mb says to (2005-7-30 19:48:54): I kind of wonder what it's going to be like for my son as he gets older, to see that his mom has recorded all this stuff for posterity. Blogeois says to (2005-7-30 19:48:59): Really? 80 percent? MintCookie says to (2005-7-30 19:49:2): true, my parents are clueless. TW says to (2005-7-30 19:49:6): But my kids have long distance grandparents and cousins they don't see katherine says to (2005-7-30 19:49:7): That's the number Blogeois says to (2005-7-30 19:49:12): wow! mb says to (2005-7-30 19:49:13): wow. TW says to (2005-7-30 19:49:25): But those same people probably have READ a blog and didnt know it laura says (2005-7-30 19:49:29): It's a strange word katherine says to (2005-7-30 19:49:31): Yet we're roaring forward katherine says to (2005-7-30 19:49:46): We're communicating in this way katherine says to (2005-7-30 19:49:52): Strange to them MintCookie says to (2005-7-30 19:49:52): My son doesn't, all his family grandparents and cousins are known to him. Blogeois says to (2005-7-30 19:49:55): so people probably don't think an online journal is a blog? mb says to (2005-7-30 19:50:10): a lot of people don't. MintCookie says to (2005-7-30 19:50:15): I know I hate we I tell someone something I read online in a blog...they gloss over. katherine says to (2005-7-30 19:50:24): How many here can remember before there were pocket calculators? Anyone? MintCookie says to (2005-7-30 19:50:24): blog, smog whaattt? TW says to (2005-7-30 19:50:36): lol, I tend to say I have a friend who was just talking about this the other day Blogeois says to (2005-7-30 19:50:39): I remember that TW says to katherine (2005-7-30 19:50:45): I CAN! katherine says to (2005-7-30 19:50:48): How about a Xewrox machine? katherine says to (2005-7-30 19:50:51): Or TV? MintCookie says to (2005-7-30 19:50:53): yeah that's a good idea mb says to (2005-7-30 19:50:55): i always feel like such a nerd. "My blog friend" ... MintCookie says to (2005-7-30 19:51:11): LOL MB I feel your pain. katherine says to (2005-7-30 19:51:12): My mother could rmember the first radio. TW says to (2005-7-30 19:51:13): Understood MB katherine says to (2005-7-30 19:51:19): My father the first airplane Blogeois says to (2005-7-30 19:51:29): it's great to actually meet a blog friend after a few years. katherine says to (2005-7-30 19:51:35): Our children will laugh at all this worry laura says (2005-7-30 19:51:39): All the dear friends I've made in the past 5 years I initially met online Blogeois says to (2005-7-30 19:51:52): I'm thinking those are the best MintCookie says to (2005-7-30 19:51:56): I did meet a blog friend, flew all the way out to AL from CA to meet her Blogeois says to (2005-7-30 19:51:59): and the ones who'll last. mb says to (2005-7-30 19:52:2): that's awesome TW says to (2005-7-30 19:52:6): Of course I am the person who told her boss ummm 5 or so years ago that blogs were kinda dumb versions of message boards good for teenagers and that was about it Blogeois says to (2005-7-30 19:52:14): LOL mb says to (2005-7-30 19:52:15): ha! MintCookie says to (2005-7-30 19:52:16): It didn't turn out so well....she was NOT who she convinced me she was katherine says to (2005-7-30 19:52:18): re-bar mb says to (2005-7-30 19:52:24): oh... TW says to (2005-7-30 19:52:25): ummm I sometimes think about emailing her and tell her I was wrong Blogeois says to (2005-7-30 19:52:27): oh, that's sad, mint TW says to (2005-7-30 19:52:33): i am sorry mint *** (2005-7-30 19:52:38):Live Bloghers! http://www.blogher.org/2005/07/track_blogher_l.html Blogeois says to (2005-7-30 19:52:49): I met my first this past May. She was EXACTLY as she is in her blog MintCookie says to (2005-7-30 19:52:52): yeah, I am too. A hard lesson learned. MintCookie says to (2005-7-30 19:53:14): I'm the same wide butt, sarcastic, mom. TW says to (2005-7-30 19:53:16): I have had face to face meetings where people werent exactly what I thought they would be like but it has nearly always been for the better Blogeois says to (2005-7-30 19:53:19): when we started talking in person, it was as if we were blogging. She sounded just like her blog. TW says to (2005-7-30 19:53:36): and in the other case...I just found them boring Blogeois says to (2005-7-30 19:53:46): but I remember the old BBS days when people were generally not what their "handle" or nickname was. TW says to (2005-7-30 19:53:47): can't skim face to face mb says to (2005-7-30 19:53:56): it can be kind of awkward. i've been pleasantly surprised most times, though. TW says to (2005-7-30 19:54:2): no kidding Blogeois MintCookie says to (2005-7-30 19:54:14): Yeah, some people ready open up on line, and others like mine created a fanasty world she lived. Some are honest....life is stanger than fiction. Blogeois says to (2005-7-30 19:54:31): Ninja Rabbit Warrior turned out to be a 12 year old nerd...that was...uh, fun. katherine says to (2005-7-30 19:54:39): In 1991 I met several and they were excactly who they said MintCookie says to (2005-7-30 19:54:42): LOL TW says to (2005-7-30 19:54:46): giggle ninja rabbit warrier TW says to (2005-7-30 19:54:48): lololol TW says to (2005-7-30 19:54:53): warrior laura says (2005-7-30 19:55:3): sometimes you can tell about someone from what they write, but sometimes you only think you know TW says to (2005-7-30 19:55:7): I can't type in chat anymore apparently MintCookie says to (2005-7-30 19:55:9): I think most people are, but again some people use the net as an escape, to be who they want to me. katherine says to (2005-7-30 19:55:16): ninja rabbit worrier Blogeois says to (2005-7-30 19:55:22): LOL MintCookie says to (2005-7-30 19:55:28): I talked to her for over 2 years, before I flew out there. Blogeois says to (2005-7-30 19:55:39): true on the using the net as an escape. MintCookie says to (2005-7-30 19:55:41): I thought she was going to be like Paula Deen from FoodTV... Blogeois says to (2005-7-30 19:55:46): I have a neighbor who does that. Blogeois says to (2005-7-30 19:56:4): and what was she like in reallity? katherine says to (2005-7-30 19:56:9): yes katherine says to (2005-7-30 19:56:13): ? MintCookie says to (2005-7-30 19:56:16): She was more like a even worse version of Daisy from the dukes TW says to (2005-7-30 19:56:18): I think I tend to be quieter though not different... MintCookie says to (2005-7-30 19:56:20): of hazzard Blogeois says to (2005-7-30 19:56:22): LOL Denise says to (2005-7-30 19:56:22): lolol TW says to (2005-7-30 19:56:25): lololol Mint Denise says to (2005-7-30 19:56:26): rofl mb says to (2005-7-30 19:56:43): ha! mb says to (2005-7-30 19:56:45): oh dear. katherine says to (2005-7-30 19:56:50): did you speak by phone at all? MintCookie says to (2005-7-30 19:57:10): Seriously, no running car, drunk boyfriend, and I paid for everyting when I was out there, including a car rental and food the entire week. MintCookie says to (2005-7-30 19:57:18): Yes for two years previous. Blogeois says to (2005-7-30 19:57:20): oh my! TW says to (2005-7-30 19:57:24): yuck katherine says to (2005-7-30 19:57:31): so she pulled that part off - tough MintCookie says to (2005-7-30 19:57:32): Yep, I cried it was so awful laura says (2005-7-30 19:57:33): that is just not fun TW says to (2005-7-30 19:57:51): {no_smiley} mb says to (2005-7-30 19:57:53): i'm really sorry. katherine says to (2005-7-30 19:58:0): me too MintCookie says to (2005-7-30 19:58:9): Yeah me too, but I haven't given up on people just here. katherine says to (2005-7-30 19:58:18): no way! MintCookie says to (2005-7-30 19:58:25): her Blogeois says to (2005-7-30 19:58:27): Please don't. Some of us are okay! MintCookie says to (2005-7-30 19:58:28): not her MintCookie says to (2005-7-30 19:58:30): LOL MintCookie says to (2005-7-30 19:58:37): it's that e katherine says to (2005-7-30 19:58:40): yer, yes. People, no TW says to (2005-7-30 19:58:42): I have to say that MOST are ok TW says to (2005-7-30 19:59:1): at least in my experience Blogeois says to (2005-7-30 19:59:8): same here MintCookie says to (2005-7-30 19:59:9): That e will be the death of me. MintCookie says to (2005-7-30 19:59:28): Yeah I agree I do have others that I'm friends with, two are coming to my wedding Blogeois says to (2005-7-30 19:59:40): that's great! laura says (2005-7-30 19:59:40): Well everyone, this has been a delightful day. laura says (2005-7-30 20:0:0): Officially this chat is done -- meaning that I am coing to copy the transcript as of this point Blogeois says to (2005-7-30 20:0:3): I'm just sorry I didn't get on earlier laura says (2005-7-30 20:0:7): But you are free to keep on chatting TW says to (2005-7-30 20:0:10): me too laura says (2005-7-30 20:0:13): The room will remain up Blogeois says to (2005-7-30 20:0:14): wOOt! katherine says to laura (2005-7-30 20:0:14): The place is still open TW says to (2005-7-30 20:0:15): need more blogher! MintCookie says to (2005-7-30 20:0:19): me too, TW says to (2005-7-30 20:0:30): Night Laura and thanks Blogeois says to (2005-7-30 20:0:36): thank you! katherine says to (2005-7-30 20:0:37): Many thanks MintCookie says to (2005-7-30 20:0:44): You all should send a list of your blogs so we can visit whom we spoke with. Blogeois says to (2005-7-30 20:0:54): send where? *** (2005-7-30 20:0:59):BlogHer chatroom transcripts: http://www.pingv.com/personal-blog-entry/laura/200507/blogher-chatroom-transcripts Blogeois says to (2005-7-30 20:1:1): http://www.blogeois.com MintCookie says to (2005-7-30 20:1:2): I don't know a list somewhere. laura says (2005-7-30 20:1:6): Thank you all. It's all of you who came by today who made this chat happen. All we did was throw up a bit of shade to keep the sun off. mb says to (2005-7-30 20:1:16): thank You! mb says to (2005-7-30 20:1:27): what a great experience. katherine says to (2005-7-30 20:1:31): see you soon... TW says to (2005-7-30 20:1:36): BTW-tell the pingv folk that I really like their chat interface TW says to (2005-7-30 20:1:45): nicely done katherine says to (2005-7-30 20:1:46): will do laura says (2005-7-30 20:1:49): Thank you! MintCookie says to (2005-7-30 20:1:53): http://www.mintcookie.com Blogeois says to (2005-7-30 20:1:54): Same here! Excellent interface! MintCookie says to (2005-7-30 20:2:1): okay I'm off to eat some late dinner.